A Study in Stripes: Regimental and Repp Ties

[jrd617]



im already down with stripes. my last 3 tie kops were stripes.

 

[ThinkDerm]

repp stripes are nice. my wife states that they look very "campaign-ey"

 

[Academic2]

I want to be a Colonel-in-Chief.

You're a Forum Moderator. That's the SF equivalent, I believe.

Cheers,

Ac

 

[ThinkDerm]



Thanks! It's this bad boy:

http://www.malfordoflondon.com/ede-...roft-handmade-light-brown-blue-linen-tie.html

beautiful also.

 

[ThinkDerm]



I agree BB ties aren't that amazing. But these ties do seem to be an exception. (They have handrolled edges and are self tipped):

nice tie.

 

[Evolve]



Tell this to the old boys in and around St. James's, London, every day. If you're wearing a striped tie, get ready to be asked what institution it is unless it is a well known one (Household Div., Royal Navy, Eton, Harrow, MCC etc.). The gentlemen (of all ages, young or old, retired and serving) in the Cavalry & Guards club, for example, wear theirs religiously and I stick to my College tie when I'm there out of respect and tradition. I would never dream of wearing a tie that I was not entitled to, it's almost a form of fraud.

Even if you are wearing a striped tie in these areas that has no affiliation, be ready to see a bemused reaction when you explain "I just like the colours" as it doesn't occur to the true gent that he need any other striped tie than his school/college/regiment. Indeed, the American fascination for them, beyond American college colours, always leaves me a little bemused myself...

Just to clarify, I was speaking solely about striped ties in the U.S., where, as Academic2 said, they're just seen as another item of apparel these days (with perhaps a few exceptions).

I agree BB ties aren't that amazing. But these ties do seem to be an exception. (They have handrolled edges and are self tipped):

It's not possible to have hand-rolled edges on a self tipped tie; it must be untipped for rolled edges.

 

[Academic2]

A question for our UK members. How strictly defined is a regimental tie? Is the standard British direction of the stripes (upper left down to lower right) a necessary part of the definition? Would preserving the pattern and colors but changing the orientation to the American direction (upper right down to lower left) mean it was non-regimental, and could therefore be worn by anyone?

Thanks.

Cheers,

Ac

 

[Evolve]



A question for our UK members.   How strictly defined is a regimental tie?  Is the standard British direction of the stripes (upper left down to lower right) a necessary part of the definition?  Would preserving the pattern and colors but changing the orientation to the American direction (upper right down to lower left) mean it was non-regimental, and could therefore be worn by anyone?

Thanks.

Cheers,

Ac

According to Put This On, yes:

Traditionally, Englishmen wore these ties with the stripes sloping down from left to right, while Americans went the other direction. The style originated in the early 20th century, when decommissioned British officers continued to wear their regimental colors after they returned to civilian life (hence the name “regimental striped ties”). Anglophiles in the United States imitated the practice, but flipped the direction of the stripes so they wouldn’t be accused of being parvenus.

Today, the colors and direction of the stripes don’t really matter anymore, as nobody really remembers the origin of these things. The only thing that’s important is that such ties – at least in the United States – are incredible versatile.

http://putthison.com/post/73426411642/the-foundation-of-a-good-necktie-wardrobe-i-dont

 

[Wrenkin]

A question for our UK members. How strictly defined is a regimental tie? Is the standard British direction of the stripes (upper left down to lower right) a necessary part of the definition? Would preserving the pattern and colors but changing the orientation to the American direction (upper right down to lower left) mean it was non-regimental, and could therefore be worn by anyone?

Someone suggested on a previous page that the stripes on the RAF tie run from the upper right to lower left. Here is a photo of Prince Charles wearing one in that style:



Looks like what you can buy here.

 

[Ich_Dien]



Oh dear, "Put this On". Do we need to put up this with dilettante (PTO) much longer?

 

[Flyswatter]



Oh dear, "Put this On". Do we need to put up this with dilettante (PTO) much longer?

Huh? What's wrong with Put This On? Derek Guy, who writes most of the content these days, is a savvy and respected member here. He knows his stuff as far as I'm concerned, and writes informative and well-researched posts for Put This On as well as his other blog, dieworkwear. No need for the elitist attitude.

 

[BlackBrumel]

My ties are striped from right to left with no bond with any regiment. They are just ties worn by a person carrying on his own business.

 

[Flyswatter]



My ties are striped from right to left with no bond with any regiment. They are just ties worn by a person carrying on his own business.

Tell this to the old boys in and around St. James's, London, every day. If you're wearing a striped tie, get ready to be asked what institution it is unless it is a well known one (Household Div., Royal Navy, Eton, Harrow, MCC etc.). The gentlemen (of all ages, young or old, retired and serving) in the Cavalry & Guards club, for example, wear theirs religiously and I stick to my College tie when I'm there out of respect and tradition. I would never dream of wearing a tie that I was not entitled to, it's almost a form of fraud.

Even if you are wearing a striped tie in these areas that has no affiliation, be ready to see a bemused reaction when you explain "I just like the colours" as it doesn't occur to the true gent that he need any other striped tie than his school/college/regiment. Indeed, the American fascination for them, beyond American college colours, always leaves me a little bemused myself...

 

[BlackBrumel]

In my days, "true gents" used to carry on their own business and keep their bemusement to themselves.

 

[Flyswatter]

^ Yeah... My post was sarcastic. See post #62 in this thread for reference.