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A Sam (and David) Hober Tie Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by in stitches, May 24, 2011.

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  1. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    i would STRONGLY recommend, a black, grenadine fina. go crazy for the wedding, 7 fold unlined, untipped and hand rolled edges.

    you will not regret it i guarantee.
     


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    I didn't think about this route, but I am intrigued.

    Price is no object for this. This tie will have all the bells and whistles.
     


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    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    im sure others will have ideas, but mine is the best. go buy it. :)

    it will be perfect with the gray suit and a crisp white shirt.

    like below. the navy will also look great, but for a wedding, you should go with black i think.

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    I probably would, but it seems Hober is all out of that fabric ATM.

    That photo is some serious inspiration! Maybe I'll go dual color, with the back blade a dark burgundy shade?
     
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    Those are great suggestions from stitches.

    He should be restocking many fabrics shortly from what I understand.

    Don't discount a sweet glen plaid or shepherd's check though :D But yeah, either of those grenadines would be awesome too.
     
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    Stitches, do those have a light lining or are they completely unlined?
     


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    noap, plenty on hand of the one i got, right here. dont wait! buy now! hurry hurry! :)

    http://www.samhober.com/grenadine-piccola-silk-ties/carbon-black-piccola-grenadine-silk-tie-6.html

    almost the same as fina, just as awesome.

    lol, for a wedding tie, keep it simple, just black.
     


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    those do have a lining, as i only went 4 fold, but if i did 7 fold, id have gone unlined. next time. :nodding:
     


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    missed this, in about week or so, i think the grenadines will be back. but if he likes mine, they are available now in the above link.

    you ideas are also good, almost as good as mine. ;)
     


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    Fina/Piccola Black Grenadine, perfect choice for a wedding, no question about it, unless of course you are wearing a tux ;)
     


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    I have to question the love of the unlined seven fold gauze tie on here. Is this an eyes-bigger-than-stomach thing? I have a few unlined seven fold gauze ties and find them woefully insubstantial, even less so than a neckerchief, in terms of having any substance, hold, or anything. It's like wearing a bolo tie. Why the love? Sanity check please.
     


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    any made by hober?

    certainly a grenadine is always gonna be somewhat see through if its unlined, but if the silk is substantial enough, woven well and its folded right, it should be fine. as a matter of fact, on the capelli website, if you chose the 7 fold option on a grenadine, they recommend that it be unlined.

    horses for courses i guess.

    would be nice to hear davids input on this.
     


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    No...
    As far as Cappelli's suggestions and so forth, I feel this almost probably has more to do with tradition and context than with actual performance. A 7-fold tie is a traditional construction that is by design sustained by its folds, but I don't think it's designed with the fragility of gauze in mind. If they are suggesting unlined, it's more because a "lined 7-fold" tie is an anomaly and a contradiction in terms. Putting my question differently, why would you even go 6- or 7-fold on a gauze tie, and not a regular construction with a better interlining? I don't understand. I have lightly lined six fold ties of regular printed silk in varying weights, 50 oz , 36 oz , and below, and this is my preferred construction. But on a gauze tie it seems like asking for trouble. The ones I tried this on (even with some interlining, mind you) came out like socks. Tell me, how thick of an interlining are you using when you go 6 and 7 fold???
     
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    Cappelli uses different terminology. "unlined" on their website means untipped/rolled edges. By default, he uses an interlining, which he refers to as "padding" (although, you can ask him not to use padding/interlining with a custom order). I had a lengthy/awkward email exchange with Patrizio the one time I placed an order.
     


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    According to the Hober site, they recommend 6 fold with a lining. I'm not sure if they do a 7 fold tie, whatever that is. I would most likely get a 6 fold with a light lining.

    Definitely leaning towards Stiches' suggestion of black fina, untipped with rolled edges.
     


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