Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by in stitches, May 24, 2011.
SOOOO bad to watch.
been out of commission for a bit lately, but great stuff guys, keep it comin!
Ordered these last week:
As soon as I get them, I'll post pics. My first foray into the Sam Hober world!
So I have to ask. And let me preface this by saying I hold no ill-will towards grenadine as it's gorgeousness. But why is there SO much of it lately? Or is there just so much of it in Sam Hober since he makes it any way you want it?
Grenadine is gorgeous, very. But I'm getting somewhat calloused to it. Kind of like if I bold and red-color too much in an email, eventually it's going to lose the meaning and feeling.
I have one grenadine (burgundy KW) and another on the way (Raw Silk Panta ). That's really it for now. Maybe one of the popular ones from Hober down the line but probably won't own tons of them.
The answer, based also on David (Sam) feedback, is yes.
Probably a mix of the customizability and the fact that David has a number of different weaves and even some patterned grenadines (pindot and stripes). That and the whole textured solid thing (adding visual interest to an outfit without an actual pattern). That said, my last four Hobers were non-grenadine and I'd expect this trend to continue for a bit with some of the new madders and lovely looking oxford weaves as well as the (IMO) underrated diamond weaves (once the July NPC ends that is).
Not sure I can offer any real insight but...clearly David offers a significant number of grenadine ties (over 115 if my counting is right) in different colors, weaves, stripes and pindots. So chances are if you are buying Hober ties then you are going to be getting (or interested in) a grenadine. My sense is that grenadine ties offer the wearer some visual interest in a (generally) solid color and non-shiny tie, at least that is what attracts me to them.
Personally, I started shopping Hober because I wanted some nice solid colored ties and I was having no luck finding them until I came across David's offerings. I started with a couple of grenadines and liked the quality so much that I tried some other solids (primarily the diamond weave) and from there to Macclesfields, patterns, etc. because, to your point, there is more to tie life than grenadines.
I own more than my fair share of Hober grenadines but I wear a lot of patterned suits and striped shirts so a solid color tie is pretty much a necessity and I like varying the colors.
That is my story and I'm sticking to it.
It's a good story. I love the grenadines but I personally love the wool/linen/raw silk ties more. I have one wool tie from Sam Hober and it feels like I've wrapped my neck in a fluffy pillow.
for me the idea is as follows. they give you the chance to add some texture and visual interest in a solid color tie. solid ties are certainly the most versatile ties, but they can also be the most boring ties. the grenadine weave negates a lot of the boring. you can get a similar effect with a slubby silk shantung or linen or wool or cashmere, but they tend to be more seasonal and sometimes maybe not formal enough, depending on the wearer and occasion. the grenadine is kind of like the perfect mix for creating a super versatile and not boring tie.
I agree to all of this. But I still say it can be had that most combos people post here can also work with some other tie that's not grenadine or solid. Why solve a solid boring tie by going grenadine when you can solve it by adding an actual patterned tie? Not saying it should never be solved this way, just saying it could be solved that way less often than it seems like it is.
It's like I'm hearing my favorite song on the radio over and over. Great for the first few times.
I'm sure 95% of people would go grenadine here. Mr Six delivered with this.
GTFO GRENADINE RUELZ!!!!!
no srsly, they rule.
no srsly, some people just love a solid tie. i do. often i prefer a solid tie to a pattern, even though a pattern would work.
I do understand where you are coming from with the same song analogy. The primary reason I started posting pics in this thread was that I wanted to show some non-grenadine Hober ties because the few (relatively speaking) non-grenadine pics did influence me to try them and I liked them at least as much as the grenadines.
A case in point is in the first post of the entire thread where in stiches posted a pic of the peach houndstooth pattern tie. I wanted that one from the moment I saw the photo (took me a while as I stalked David's website for the day the material was replenished).
All that said, the same grenadine song is a classic that I do appreciate. Also, while we see a lot of grenadines on this site and particularly in this thread I have yet to see another soul IRL besides me wearing one, so they seem to be quite rare (at least in the space I occupy).
Alright, I agree with all your words PP. My work is done here, as I am not alone.
Welcome to Sam Hober world, I am sure you will enjoy your visit and stay a long time! Great first selections (I have the same oxford weave en route to me as I type).
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