A Sam (and David) Hober Tie Appreciation Thread

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  1. stratfordwill

    stratfordwill Member

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    The reppe is awesome and the twill is awesomer. Seriously. I just got my green madder twill. The pattern of the weave is similar, small diagonal lines, though on my ties they are at different angles. And both have a similar sheen. The real difference is the feel and the drape. The twill is softer and less stiff. The drape is amazing. The three fold twill feels like a much thicker tie. I'll work on some pictures, but the difference seems to be more in the feel than the look. I really like the reppe ties, but I love the madder twill.
     


  2. stratfordwill

    stratfordwill Member

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    [​IMG]
    Chocolate Reppe and Forest Green Madder.
     


  3. Mr. Six

    Mr. Six Senior member

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    Does the madder twill have that typical dry hand?
     


  4. stratfordwill

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    I don't really feel qualified to answer that. It feels pretty smooth to me.
     


  5. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    they look amazing.
     


  6. Syeknom

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    pinkpanther, you have the English pattern #2 right? I'm considering adding the #19 (same tie different colour) to my next order and was wondering about the silk - is it woven or printed? It looks woven in the pictures. Is it quite a chunky silk?

    Cheers!
     


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    Syeknom,

    I do indeed have the English pattern #2 and...I have the English pattern #19 as well. :slayer:

    I posted a picture of it a couple weeks back in post #2040 if you want to take a look. It is woven and fairly substantial and a little chunky. Standard 3-fold construction is plenty.

    It is a great tie and would fit into any collection. Make sure to post some pics once you get your new order. :nodding:

    Cheers!
     
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  8. Syeknom

    Syeknom Senior member

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    Haha, is there any Hober you don't own? [​IMG]
    Indeed I missed that picture, it looks brilliant. Thanks for the response - I was after a chunky woven tie like that and was wondering if I needed to go up from a 3-fold to achieve it. This looks like just the ticket.

    Thanks! As soon as my bonus and/or tax rebate arrive it's order 'o' clock!
     


  9. pinkpanther

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    You are welcome, glad I could help. With respect to your first question, there are many Hober's still on my wish list...:)
     
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    I just ordered a new batch, put a few up for sale
     


  11. in stitches

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    whatcha get?
     


  12. obama

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    Hi, just partly formed my purchase decision and would like to solicit any comment you may have before placing order. Pls feel free to do so as this is my first purchase.

    Length: I am 5'10, althetic built, 72kg. Trousers with normal rise, normal length of torso. After reading this whole thread, I lean to go for 59' for the tie i plan to make a FIH knot. I will use the SH tool to verify. Does the length sounds about right to you? Do I have to add an inch or so for the double FIH?

    Width: the largest lapel width of my suit is 3.5'. Given my built mentioned above and the style I like (classic, a bit traditional, avoidance of fashion forward), I am tempted to go for 3.75' wide tie. Am I too aggressive and should I go for 3.5' as a start? If I want to buy both grenadine and normal silk ties, is there a preference to go for wider in either of the Frabic?

    Color and Frabic - this is clearer fo me. My current ties are mainly plain navy, gray, and black with pattern. I need more interestig navy to go with my plain gray and navy suits for business use. I prefer to go for a grenadine dark navy to use the texture to differentiate from my current navy ties (they are of normal silk). I did not choose SH grendaline navy because it is a bit too bright of a blue to me to be very versatile according to some action photos posted earlier. Any inputs? Also, I am indecisive on grossa or fina or others in the grenadine group.

    Another tie I am thinking is for adding some spice to my navy/ gray look. I like both deep brownish/ greenish colors. But the later is less versatile to me. For brownish, i am sitting on the fence for bungundy and dark/ bitter chocolate (dark red is out as it is too managerial for small potato like me). Since browish is new color to me, I will go for the normal silk Frabic to be prudent. I will also avoid the dressy Satin for daily business attire. Could anyone recommend me a choice of plain brownish and the Frabic?

    Thank you.
     


  13. Flyswatter

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    Sounds like you're on the right track.

    As for tie dimensions, I'm the same height as you and specified my first order of Hober ties a few months ago to be 59". I've since done some experimenting and as my tastes have evolved, I now prefer ties that are 60-61". This leaves the back blade about an inch shorter than the front blade for me (I tie a four-in-hand), which is probably a bit closer than most would prefer, but it's what I like. I just think it adds a bit of subtle character and panache when the back blade peeks out from behind the front occasionally. I don't use the keeper, either. I may even experiment with an inch longer on a future tie, so that both blades end up approximately the same length.

    In regard to width, I'm like you in that I prefer classical proportions and dislike trendy slim ties. I've ordered Hober ties in 3.5, 3 5/8, and 3.75" widths. It's amazing the difference even an eighth of an inch can make in the overall appearance of the tie (to my own eye, anyway). It was fun to experiment, but I've decided I prefer 3.5 inches. Not too slim, not too wide, and works well with my jacket proportions (size 44, 4.5 inch lapels on my recent MTM suits).

    I am a huge fan of grenadine ties (who on this site isn't?) and David's are some of the best. Personally, I prefer the fina weave, but I might be in a minority on that. I really like solid colored ties, and the rich texture of grenadines is a great way to add visual interest. Hober grenadines I've purchased include navy, dark red, dark chocolate, and burgundy, all fina. I'd like to purchase black and maybe forest green sometime in the future, among others. You mentioned you are on the fence deciding between dark and bitter chocolate, but don't want to get a grenadine since you've never worn brown ties before, if I follow. I say go for the grenadine anyway. :) Can't go wrong with the dark or bitter fina, though my preference is for the slightly lighter "dark chocolate". The burgundy fina is a beautiful tie as well. It's a very rich, deep wine color, and in some lighting might even look brownish. But that's the color I prefer for burgundy.

    Anyway, YMMV. Whatever you end up selecting, know that you will receive quality ties and superb service from David. Ordering custom ties can be addicting. And be careful not to become to obsessive when deciding on dimensions, construction options, etc. ;)
     
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  14. obama

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    Thanks Flyswatter for your inputs. Really useful for me! Only one thug from you is deconstructing is that you influenced me to consider another brown grenadine in addition to the dark navy glendaline I planned ;))

    Really like the burgundy you decribed. I like that t is not bright but rich in color. And bein dull and brownish in dim light.

    I agree with u that beapoke requires experiements, which is part of the fun, and I have prepared to do so. Just trying to research more to go for a less indirect way to experiement the things that are more likely to be my like.

    Also, may I like the reason you sou much prefer fina over grossa?

    Any more inputs please? Bitter or dark chocolate or burgundy?
     


  15. Syeknom

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    I'd say that if you wear black shoes frequently then a navy or burgundy grenadine is a hair more versatile than a brown. Other than that it's complete personal preference. Navy is the default classic. Brown is a wonderful choice. I'm personally not a big fan of burgundy ties for myself but they're dead easy to wear and look great.

    To be awkward I think in the grenadine fina I prefer dark chocolate over bitter but the gross I prefer bitter over dark. Don't ask me to articulate any reasoning for that. On the site the dark grossa looks brighter and more vivid than the dark fina.

    Flyswatter, have you considered forgoing the keeper of your ties entirely? I imagine it making for quite a different drape and weight.
     


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