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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. gdl203

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    Got it. All looks like a grainy greyish greenish thick suit on my monitor. I think that explains some of the incongruity I was [​IMG] about. That said, are you happy with the jacket? (I understand that you now order w/o fittings) or do you feel that some things need to be fixed? The pants fit is pretty unfortunate on this pic.
     


  2. Fuuma

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    This is why no one learns, and get stuck into the never ending mantras most cognoscenti's toss out there randomly.

    You are fat.
     


  3. whnay.

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    Got it. All looks like a grainy greyish greenish thick suit on my monitor. I think that explains some of the incongruity I was [​IMG] about. That said, are you happy with the jacket? (I understand that you now order w/o fittings) or do you feel that some things need to be fixed?

    Yes I'm happy with it. FWIW I haven't skipped fittings just yet.

    It's got a lot of drape and wears differently than my stuff from LH. I won't be able to wear it for another few months so I'll give you a more fulsome answer after I wear it a bit.
     


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    The pants fit is pretty unfortunate on this pic.

    Yes, they look dumpy in that photo. As you'll see from some of the other pics I took wearing these same trousers they don't usually sit that way. I blame it on the rapid fire dressing and undressing I was doing to take all these pics before my girlfriend blew my head off.
     


  5. gdl203

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    Yep - a lot of drape and looks like a very full chest and top sleeves. Overall looks quite top heavy. The left-right balance (oh noes) looks a little off as well. The buttoning point is quite messy (because of the very long roll?). Do you like the sleeve length?

    That said, I don't know sht about bespoke tailoring so my opinion on the matter should be given little value.
     


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    Do you wear this coat in that particular combination with the pants, shirt and tie a lot?
    In other pics of you Whnay I have observed that you have good understated taste in combining your sportcoats with other clothing.
    This pic does not remind me of your style at all.

    Edit: don't mind my question, I understand you just took a bunch of quick pics of your various new coats and suits etc. So no time to switch shirts and ties etc.
     


  7. whnay.

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    Yep - a lot of drape and looks like a very full chest and top sleeves. Overall looks quite top heavy. The left-right balance (oh noes) looks a little off as well. The buttoning point is quite messy (because of the very long roll?). Do you like the sleeve length?

    That said, I don't know sht about bespoke tailoring so my opinion on the matter should be given little value.


    All valid points - it's very top heavy - especially when you compare it to the brown glen plaid from LH for example. The front around the button is cleaner than the photo suggests and the sleeve length doesn't bother me that much - maybe a cm or two long. I'll wear it in the fall to NYC to see what you think of it in person.
     


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    Looking fwd to seeing some of that stuff in person.
     


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    Bill, I think your stuff looks better in person than in pictures. The same certainly goes for me. In person, I don't get the same impression of top-heavyness that Greg is pointing out. I blame it on camera angle, lens distortion, and the inherent awkwardness of posing for these sorts of photos. Take the sleeves, for example. Nobody has pointed out anything about their silhouette, which appears a little odd here. They appear to balloon out at the elbows, then very dramatically taper, but I think that's because of how you're holding your arms. In real life, I thought your sleeves hung perfectly.
     


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    The vaginazation of the pattern in the upperback is driving me crazy.

    Vaginization > drape.

    I now wish to fly to Naples solely to ask Mariano if he can replicate A&S's vaginal jacketing.
     


  11. whnay.

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    Bill, I think your stuff looks better in person than in pictures. The same certainly goes for me. In person, I don't get the same impression of top-heavyness that Greg is pointing out. I blame it on camera angle, lens distortion, and the inherent awkwardness of posing for these sorts of photos. Take the sleeves, for example. Nobody has pointed out anything about their silhouette, which appears a little odd here. They appear to balloon out at the elbows, then very dramatically taper, but I think that's because of how you're holding your arms. In real life, I thought your sleeves hung perfectly.

    Well I tend to think so but its always hard to tell. Sometimes taking photos is a lot more trouble than its worth - especially when you have a shit camera.
     


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    Well I tend to think so but its always hard to tell. Sometimes taking photos is a lot more trouble than its worth - especially when you have a shit camera.
    God knows, I hear you on that. Tragically, those of us who most benefit from bespoke tend to be the ones most difficult to photograph well. Speaking as someone missing about a foot of height, it's become very clear to me that lens distortion takes a heavy toll. Something is going to look way too big or out of proportion. You just have to pick your poison: chest, stomach, or hips. It's never pretty. The only real solution, other then getting a better camera, is taking the photo at a longer distance under more flattering light.
     


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    Can loyal fans of the "vapid moron" lasbar and [​IMG] like myself ask for anything better than this thread? It is the greatest thread ever. It never disappoints. I'm moved to quote scripture here:


    According to the theory of Realism, hegemons will eventually battle.
     


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    The manton/Vox beef entertains me to no end. As a relative newcomer, though, someone please fill me in - WWF-speaking, who is the "good guy" and who is the "bad guy"? Is there some sort of SF cage-match where everyone wears bespoke speedos (with the requisite drape) and white, knee-length, bespoke, shell cordovan G&G wrestling boots?
     


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    Vox is a bit like the Nazi dentist in Marathon Man. He knows where all my fresh and extra-sensetive nerve endings are and he enjoys putting his drill bits into them. The other movie character I would compare him to is Freddy Miles.

    That said, I don't claim to be the good guy. But I almost completely leave him alone whereas he likes to take cheap, personal shots at me with considerable frequency. He gets hit back for maybe one out of twenty and he always whinges about it. Just like one of his departed heroes, I note.
     


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