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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by doughboysc, Apr 27, 2005.

  1. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    don't try to analyze it. that's a dead-end path.

    "y'all" ain't even a word in standard english, so it means whatever people want it to mean.

    in my opinion, it's usable almost anywhere you would usually say "you". which means it covers singular and plural.

    however, the sense i always got growing up in the south, is that "y'all" in the singular was more of an affectation, like someone trying to sound even more southern than they already were. but then again, that's part of the southern good-ole-boy manner.

    "y'all come back now." ...it's almost a self-caricature.

    and it's spelled "y'all", not "ya'll". that's a pet peeve of mine. "ya all" just doesn't make sense at all.

    now let's move on to possessives:

    mine
    yourn
    his'n
    her'n
     
  2. scnupe7

    scnupe7 Senior member

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    Speaking of possesives, I once knew a girl that used to say "mines". As in that's mines. It used to drive me crazy.
     
  3. LabelKing

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    (faustian bargain @ April 29 2005,16:52) don't try to analyze it. that's a dead-end path. "y'all" ain't even a word in standard english, so it means whatever people want it to mean. in my opinion, it's usable almost anywhere you would usually say "you". which means it covers singular and plural. however, the sense i always got growing up in the south, is that "y'all" in the singular was more of an affectation, like someone trying to sound even more southern than they already were. but then again, that's part of the southern good-ole-boy manner. "y'all come back now." ...it's almost a self-caricature. and it's spelled "y'all", not "ya'll". that's a pet peeve of mine. "ya all" just doesn't make sense at all. now let's move on to possessives: mine yourn his'n her'n
    Speaking of possesives, I once knew a girl that used to say "mines". Â As in that's mines. Â It used to drive me crazy.
    Trying to be cute, no doubt.
     
  4. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    it is cute...when my 2-and-a-half year old says it...
     
  5. scnupe7

    scnupe7 Senior member

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    I agree.......sad thing is that this girl wasn't trying to be cute.
     
  6. tdial

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    Proudly from Georgia here, fellas. Parents from Western part of the state over by the Bama border. Y'all is categorically a plural pronoun. Period. End of discussion.

    As for the others, I remember what a former football coach said about Paul "Bear" Bryant once. "He can take his'n and beat your'n, and he can take your'n and beat his'n." Never a higher compliment to a coach could be said.
     
  7. HoustonBusiness

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    As a cracker who spent much of the first 24 years of his life in the backwoods of North Florida and South Georgia, this might be the only subject ever to appear in this forum on which I can speak authoritatively. "Y'all" is a contraction of "you all," which obviously implies "more than one." Â So, "y'all" is plural, despite Kinky Friedman's Jeff Foxworthy-like statement that "y'all" is singular; "all y'all" is plural; and "all y'all's" is plural possessive." If you want more proof, click here to read the definition of "y'all" from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, which defines "y'all" as being plural and reads in part "Southerners do not, as is sometimes believed, use you-all or y'all for both singular and plural you."
     
  8. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    So much better than the Australian equivalent. I still shudder when I hear people say it..."youse"

    "What are yooooouse doin'?"
     
  9. thinman

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    (thinman @ April 29 2005,05:59) tgfny, "y'all" is singular. The plural of y'all is "all y'all".
    No, it isn't. I am from South Georgia and have never heard that variant. Have heard the argument that it is either singular or plural, but that is generally from Yankees trying to mock us.
    Must be regional. My ex-wife's family in Arkansas uses "y'all" as singular and "all y'all" as plural. As a "yankee", I was shocked (and a little bit amused) the first time I heard it, since I had always assumed that "y'all" is indeed a contraction of "you all" and therefore plural. It came up in normal conversation I overheard, so I assume they weren't just pulling a yankee's leg (BTW, when did Arizonan's become "yankees"?)
     
  10. Carlo

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    Y'all done took this too serious.... all y'all.

    Another example of southern-speak....

    A gentleman from Texas is sitting next to a woman from New York on a flight and attempts to make polite conversation:

    "So, where do y'all live at?"
    "In a place where people don't end a sentence with a preposition" is her reply...

    "So, where do y'all live at, bitch?"


    .....you may need to be southern to appreciate that one. Harlan on Will & Grace is my favorite example of the difficulty involved in Rebel to Yankee translation.
     

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