Thanks, I didn't know that. Now a sizing question: What size Black NS should I get? My waist measures about 35-36" depending on how tight I pull the measuring tape. I have Dior 21cms in a size 32 that fits pretty snug, RRL Straights in a 32 that have stretched too much (could have sized down 1 easily, maybe even 2). I'm thinking of getting either a 31 or 32 in the black NS. Any suggestions? I don't know how if you have a size 36" waist you can wear size 32 jeans I have a 33" waist... probably could have done a 32, but I got my blue NSs in a 33. The waist has stretched enough that even after a wash I need a belt. Thighs are snug after a wash but OK after a few days. I would maybe measure again and just go 1-2" below that. Pics would probably help (no homo).