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A.P.C Jeans... Where made?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by amerikajinda, Dec 23, 2006.

  1. amerikajinda

    amerikajinda Senior member

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    Where are A.P.C. jeans made? I doubt they're made in France... please enlighten me. If you have a pair, what does the tag say? Thanks!
     
  2. Dick Danger

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    Wow, it's happening here too. [​IMG]
     
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    amerikajinda Senior member

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    Wow, it's happening here too. [​IMG]

    Uh... what's happening? [​IMG]
     
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    My raw New Standards and Rescues both say "Made in Macau."
     
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    My raw New Standards and Rescues both say "Made in Macau."

    Thank you for the answer. So that's about the same as "Made in China" (i.e., not the same as "Made in Italy" or "Made in England") but I guess we're paying for the quality of the raw materials (denim) and not craftmanship?
     
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    wEstSidE Senior member

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    The craftsmanship is good. It's selvage denim. I'd say the quality is better than the Nudies that I've seen, I don't know about the Japanese denim Nudies.
     
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    To answer your question, Macau and Tunisia (my Anglaise are from Tunis).

    And there is a better way to tell how well something is made, is to actually inspect how well its made. e.g."made in japan" used to mean junk, and now people demand it? [​IMG]
     
  8. amerikajinda

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    And there is a better way to tell how well something is made, is to actually inspect how well its made. e.g."made in japan" used to mean junk, and now people demand it? [​IMG]

    Yes, Japan made a remarkable transformation in the quality of the goods they produce, but that transformation took many decades... but "Made in Macau" translates to... "Made in Macau" today. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth... Maybe someday (fifty years hence?) we will covet goods made in Macau. But that's a long way off. At least with the Nudies you know they're coming from a workshop in Italy staffed with Italian women and men with an eye for fashion and detail, as opposed to Macau where there are quite possibly sweatshop-like conditions with under-aged Chinese workers making pennies per hour, and more than likely there is more emphasis placed on quantity than quality. I wouldn't feel safe driving a car made in Macau (the time is coming soon when we're going to be able to purchase Chinese-made cars) so for the time being, at least, I would prefer to wear Studio d'Artisan (made in Japan) rather than APC (made in Tunisia or Macau).
     
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    I'd say the quality of my APCs is about the same as my SSDS/RRDS (japanese denim)
     
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    amerikajinda, sorry to burst your bubble, but take a look at this article if you will. http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/...ness/jeans.php
     
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    amerikajinda, sorry to burst your bubble, but take a look at this article if you will.
    Ah, I stand corrected! [​IMG] Thanks for pointing out that article... makes sense.
     
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    Just cause it's made in macau doesn't mean they're inferior to japanese or Italian made jeans. The quality on my new standards is awesome and the stitching, on point. I'd say that they're on pair with Japanese Diors in terms of craftsmanship. Of course my APC NS's are nearly 2 years old so APC denim may have dipped in quality.
     
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    the tag shows where the final process of the construction was made. it only testifies for the quality to a certain extent, for the better or otherwise.
     
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    No link to APC whatsoever but I recently saw a TV feature on Martelli Tessili, an Italian company which takes care of the various washing and distressing processes for Diesel among others.

    Funnily enough their Italian factories are almost entirely staffed by Chinese workers since locals are allegedly not interested in spending 8 hours a day sandpapering jeans and the chinese are, according to the clichÃ[​IMG] loving Martelli's boss, "the most precise, efficient and hard working guys you can find". Workforce is paid to European standards though.
     
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    Yes, Japan made a remarkable transformation in the quality of the goods they produce, but that transformation took many decades... but "Made in Macau" translates to... "Made in Macau" today. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth... Maybe someday (fifty years hence?) we will covet goods made in Macau. But that's a long way off. At least with the Nudies you know they're coming from a workshop in Italy staffed with Italian women and men with an eye for fashion and detail, as opposed to Macau where there are quite possibly sweatshop-like conditions with under-aged Chinese workers making pennies per hour, and more than likely there is more emphasis placed on quantity than quality. I wouldn't feel safe driving a car made in Macau (the time is coming soon when we're going to be able to purchase Chinese-made cars) so for the time being, at least, I would prefer to wear Studio d'Artisan (made in Japan) rather than APC (made in Tunisia or Macau).
    As well as the article pointing to Martelli's wash staff being largely Chinese, you'll find that a large part of 'Made in Italy" jeans are actually sewn offshore, in countries like Romania, before being washed and finished in Italy. And these Italian jeans may use fabric that was woven in Greece, Spain, Turkey, Tunisia etc. And there have been many sweatshop scandals in Italy lately. Made in Macau does not necessarily mean any drop in quality from made in Italy. Far from it. You'll find with the investment in Asian production, that many factories production standards will as good or higher than those in Europe. Decades it will not take [​IMG] There's a good chance the computer you're typing on was made in China. Quality is not the exclusive domain of any nation or race. And, respectfully, if you've visited Macau lately then I think "Made in Macau, leaving a bad taste in my mouth" does that wonderful place and people a gross disservice. Good food, good people and they, as APC know, can make good jeans. Raise a festive glass to Macau [​IMG]
     
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    Deleting a double post.
     
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    I'm wondering if the fact they're made in Macau is why they're only $140, which is damn cheap compared to $265 Nudies, when the quality is roughly on par.
     
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    Nudies are only that much because of US markup. They're much cheaper everywhere else. Nowhere else will you find nudies for over $200, if you look around.
     
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    Can't all this be said of japanese denim? How do we know that the steps in teh process aren't done elsewhere? Can anyone validate if they are truely made entirely in japan? I remember reading otherwise a couple of years ago before joining this site.
     

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