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A new car for <$22k

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by lemmywinks, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. ratboycom

    ratboycom Senior member

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    i would usually take this opportunity to hate on pio, but hes right. Mid-level suvs = toyota rav 4s and shit like that. Some would even include the x3 and glks in there, but that is obviously debateale. The GL is of the higher end of the SUV scale, and while its not the best, it definitely is closer to such than it is to the worst.

    Rav 4 is entry level, Highlander is Mid, 4Runner is Upper Mid, and LandCruiser is the Higher end when it comes to Toyota.
     
  2. Nataku

    Nataku Senior member

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    Who in the hell buys a 16 year old kid a brand new car? This is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. That, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying used cars/clothing.
     
  3. Jumbie

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    Who in the hell buys a 16 year old kid a brand new car?

    Lots of people. Some are more fortunate than others.

    I never got a new car but there are many parents who have the means to get their children one if they so please. It may not be a wise decision (or it may be perfectly fine) but it's their own to make.
     
  4. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    Who in the hell buys a 16 year old kid a brand new car? This is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. That, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying used cars/clothing.
    WTF? Lots of people. The theory is a new car will be more dependable, have a warranty, incur less running costs (may even have free maintenance), be safer with newer safety technology, and not have any prior accidents/issues. All of which are valid points, the last time I checked.
     
  5. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    The GL line is their flagship line. No, my GL is not an AMG, but yes, it is part of the flagship line. Have at it, as you're obviously just trolling.
    The GL is not their flagship line, as others have pointed out. I'm not trolling, but it is a matter of perception. I consider a high end SUV to a be Porsche, Range Rover, or a X5-M ([​IMG] [​IMG] ).
     
  6. oneeightyseven

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    Lots of people. Some are more fortunate than others.

    I never got a new car but there are many parents who have the means to get their children one if they so please. It may not be a wise decision (or it may be perfectly fine) but it's their own to make.


    thank you. [​IMG]
     
  7. Southern-Nupe

    Southern-Nupe Senior member

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    The GL is not their flagship line, as others have pointed out.

    I'm not trolling, but it is a matter of perception. I consider a high end SUV to a be Porsche, Range Rover, or a X5-M ([​IMG] [​IMG] ).


    Could you really consider a X5 high-end.

    When I think high-end, I ultimately think Range-Rover, G-class, Cayenne. The X5 would compete against MB's midlevel ML.
     
  8. Night Owl

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    Could you really consider a X5 high-end.

    When I think high-end, I ultimately think Range-Rover, G-class, Cayenne. The X5 would compete against MB's midlevel ML.


    ? depending on the model, cayenne is also in the same class as a regular x5

    x5m is 85k btw

    and yeah, gl is mid range, g is high end
     
  9. Nataku

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    WTF? Lots of people. The theory is a new car will be more dependable, have a warranty, incur less running costs (may even have free maintenance), be safer with newer safety technology, and not have any prior accidents/issues. All of which are valid points, the last time I checked.
    Those are valid points and I could see this for a car after or around the time they graduate high-school, but most high-school kids are still learning the ropes of driving and start out with beaters. That way, if they run it into a tree during the first snow-storm, it's no big loss. That, plus they won't have to pay for full-coverage insurance because it's just a beater.
     
  10. Southern-Nupe

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    ? depending on the model, cayenne is also in the same class as a regular x5

    x5m is 85k btw

    and yeah, gl is mid range, g is high end


    Very true on the Cayenne, but by a definition based on price instead of levels, we could almost consider the ML AMG high-end? A loaded GL is essentially close in price to that of a X-5M.

    ...the G-class is definitely MB's high-end top-level SUV.
     
  11. username79

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    Those are valid points and I could see this for a car after or around the time they graduate high-school, but most high-school kids are still learning the ropes of driving and start out with beaters. That way, if they run it into a tree during the first snow-storm, it's no big loss. That, plus they won't have to pay for full-coverage insurance because it's just a beater.
    Some parents care about their kids surviving that crash with the tree during that first snow-storm and have this crazy idea that a new car with more advanced safety features will increase their child's chance of survival. Crazy.. A new Civic, is what, 16K? To a lot of folks, buying used is an unnecessary hassle.
     
  12. dtmt

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    Could you really consider a X5 high-end.

    When I think high-end, I ultimately think Range-Rover, G-class, Cayenne. The X5 would compete against MB's midlevel ML.


    There's big difference between the M version and the regular X-5. By the same token I would consider the M5 I high end sedan even though a 535 is clearly not.
     
  13. lemmywinks

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    Thank you for the people that came in saying buying a new car is alright. I was under the impression that I was the only person who would be driving a new car as their first car.

    Seriously if I say buying 'used shit' was that offensive to everyone then I take it back and I'm sorry. I clearly stated I needed a new car, half the people came in telling me I was a spoilt brat and the rest told me to get a used car despite me saying I needed a new car.

    It's like the whole thrift store/B&amp;S thing here. Why would you tell someone that has no experience whatsoever to go lurk the B&amp;S or a thrift store? If you go to a store buy new clothes you have a sales or whatever who can get you what you need (ok this is to a certain degree from a fashion standpoint) but yea. If your old thrifted Allen Edmonds need a resole, well you're pretty experienced so you can just go find a cobbler to get it resoled or something. If my new Allen Edmonds needed a resole and I had no idea what to do I can bring it back to Allen Edmonds and hopefully they can help me out a little since I did buy the shoe from them.

    Unfortunately I'm no experienced B&amp;S/Thrifting person and I'm definitely not experienced at all in the field of cars. My sister got a RAV4 and when I'm at home I occassionally get phone calls from the dealership checking up with her.
     
  14. JayJay

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    Thank you for the people that came in saying buying a new car is alright. I was under the impression that I was the only person who would be driving a new car as their first car.


    I had new cars but I see nothing wrong with buying used, especially given depreciation and the improved build quality of cars built today. The car I had worked out very well for me because I was able to get good use out of it for a number of years and over lots of miles.
     
  15. Piobaire

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    The GL is not their flagship line, as others have pointed out.

    I'm not trolling, but it is a matter of perception. I consider a high end SUV to a be Porsche, Range Rover, or a X5-M ([​IMG] [​IMG] ).


    A GL 450 is simply not a mid-level SUV. That statement, along with the price you gave for it (to the tune of about 50% off), is quite incorrect. Carry on.
     
  16. username79

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    A GL 450 is simply not a mid-level SUV. That statement, along with the price you gave for it (to the tune of about 50% off), is quite incorrect. Carry on.
    You paid 100K for your GL450? A quick search of dealers around here shows 20 on the lot all under 70K with options, and that's MSRP. The fuck?
     
  17. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior member

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    A GL 450 is simply not a mid-level SUV. That statement, along with the price you gave for it (to the tune of about 50% off), is quite incorrect. Carry on.

    You paid 100K for your GL450? A quick search of dealers around here shows 20 on the lot all under 70K with options, and that's MSRP. The fuck?

    An expert at math too, I see.

    50k + 50% of 50k = 75k. I said, "to the tune of about," indicating not exactly, but..well, "about." If you get the P2 package and a few other options, like appearance package, leather, lighting package, it's 75k.

    Are we done yet?
     
  18. username79

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    An expert at math too, I see. 50k + 50% of 50k = 75k. I said, "to the tune of about," indicating not exactly, but..well, "about." If you get the P2 package and a few other options, like appearance package, leather, lighting package, it's 75k. Are we done yet?
    If 50K is 50% of X then X = 100K. Sure.
     
  19. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior member

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    If 50K is 50% of X then X = 100K.

    Sure.


    Seriously? We're going to argue basic math? I told you 50k was off by about 50%, not that 50k was 50% of amount X. Or is your claim that I randomly made an error that happens to work out to almost exacty the real life price? I'm sort of done with your obvious idiocy and trolling.

    Come talk to me when you have an equal "mid-level SUV" as mine.
     
  20. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    Come talk to me when you have an equal "mid-level SUV" as mine.
    I have cars. Mid-level SUVs are minivan replacements for insecure family men in suburbs.
     

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