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A Fine Pair of Shoes x Alfred Sargent MTO Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SuitedDx, May 18, 2012.

  1. Harrydog

    Harrydog Senior member

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    Fed Ex called. The Miller boot will be delivered before 10:30 AM tomorrow! :bounce2:
     
  2. Gdot

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    It's rather like the end of an epic, isn't it?
     
  3. Saratorial_Splender

    Saratorial_Splender Senior member

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    Theses were supposed to be MTO made to handgrade level in shell cordovan. The only difference is the beveled waist. Paid close to $1,000 for them.
     
  4. Harrydog

    Harrydog Senior member

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    We did varying widths on the Miller boot.
     
  5. zippyh

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    No, they were supposed to be handgrade style at exclusive level.
     
  6. Harrydog

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    This sounds exactly right to me. AS is taking a style normally made only in handgrade and making up the shoe to exclusive standards on an exclusive last.
     
  7. SuitedDx

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    +1 It is tricky trying to differentiate I think when it comes to shell since the distributor (Horween) and material is the same. From my understanding of the MTO/HG, the last (19, 48, & 53 are only for MTO/HG with some exceptions), [calf] uppers, burnishing (if requested), fiddleback waist, bevelled edge, sole dressing, and packaging are better compared to the Exclusive range (of course the 'MTO' piece is default when it comes to design/color/etc.).

    I personally do not get too hyped up on the soles so the Exclusive level works perfectly for me. Very happy with the whiskey Ramseys and I look forward to receiving the Cognac Millers. NYC is supposed to be sunny so maybe I can wear them on the walk home! Nothing breaks shoes/boots in better than a 2.5K walk :slayer:
     
  8. Saratorial_Splender

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    Thank zippyh. This helps make my point even more.
     
  9. Fiddler

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    I don't suppose anyone would be interested in the Handgrade Carroll loafer with medallion and no tassels... in midnight blue burnished calf or Oxblood...made to Exclusive specs. If so great, otherwise I will most probably have to go the Handgrade option.
     
  10. justinkapur

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    my miillers should be delivered tomorrow :slayer:

    I wont get to see them tomorrow evening though :embar:
     
  11. justinkapur

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    I would do the blake in a reddish suede. I think that would look pretty fucking sick. And im not talking snuff suede, think more red

    Or doing a textured leather, like pebble grain in a tan/chestnut :slayer:
     
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  12. grunberg

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    That MTO in cordovan you mean? What last was it? I heard that they don't have any last in G width
     
  13. Saratorial_Splender

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    They do. My Benson was in G width.
     
  14. SuitedDx

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    It depends on the last offerings. HG lasts have G, but some other lasts (e.g., 99) do not have G.
     
  15. Shikar

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    Got my Millers!
    Had a quick look at them over lunch, beautiful boot, the shell needs some elbow grease, but overall finishing is nice.
    Disappointed with the 3 piece boot tree as it doesn't fill the vamp or heel well. Certainly not fitted to the last, nor worth the significant added price. They could learn a thing or 2 from Vass trees.

    Regards.
     
  16. LS7

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    Quite the opposite from my perspective. The boot tree seems a little too large - it's a devil to remove from the right boot, even after unlacing it all the way. Perhaps I just need a little more practice with these three piece trees.
     
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    Agree. Mine (one piece) does not fill the vamp as well.
     
  18. emptym

    emptym Senior member Moderator

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    ^AS doesn't actually make their own boot trees. These were commissioned directly by AFPOS iirc (a generous project imo). I wish AS made lasted boot trees. The lasted shoe trees I have from them fit perfectly.

    Doesn't it go against your point? The fair comparison to G&G would be AS handgrades, not exclusives.


    I too am not a big fan of fiddleback waists, notched heels, or fancy packaging. But handgrades do have a couple other advantages like bed lasting and leather heel and toe puffs, iirc.
     
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    Funny you mention this because my Vass trees fit well with exception to the vamp-don't fill out the shoe.

    Where are the pics?!?
     
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    Will try and get pics tonight. I had high hopes for the trees, love the old EG lasted trees. Its one of those things I enjoy. :slayer:

    Regards.
     

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