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A Fine Pair of Shoes x Alfred Sargent MTO Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SuitedDx, May 18, 2012.

  1. Harrydog

    Harrydog Senior member

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    I would use your 337 size and perhaps try the slim fit.

    I am a normal width 10.5D US. I tend to be a UK 9.5 in most everything I have, though I like a very snug fit. I went with a UK9 in Lobb 8000/7000.

    I have definitely found the 724 to be pretty roomy width wise in the F(normal) width. I do not think I would want to size down and keep the F. I will try a 9.5E (slim).

    I know this might seem sacrilegious, but I find outsole measurements (particularly heel to toe) a pretty good indication of how the shoe will fit. If the shoe has a pretty standard width welt, I end up with a pretty narrow range of lengths across a variety of shoes in my collection. That is how I ordered the 724 in the 9.5 and it was the right choice. AFPS gives sole dimensions for most of the lasts.

    Width to me is far more flexible (I have EG in both D and E and can hardly tell the difference.) The fact that the Miller boot has basically a one piece, wholecut-like vamp means it would stretch and fit nicely to my foot. So I will try the slim fitting.
     
  2. Afinepairofshoes

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    We can help here - let us have your feet length and width measurements and we can assist you as we have internal measurements of the shoes in question. Also, we have chosen two AS lasts AS99 & AS724 that have the flexibility to choose either UK E/US C (slim) or UK F/ US D (Medium) width as well as your size. Typically we suggest 1/2 size down from US to UK.

    Contact us using info@afinepairofshoes.co.uk for sizing.

    Current count for AS Miller = 0

    Current count for AS Benson = 0

    Who's going to be the first pioneer?
     
  3. NAMOR

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    emailed you guys. really looking forward to the bal boot
     
  4. CHRK33

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    Quick question re: the AS Benson monkstrap in dark cognac shell. I may have missed it but what color sole edge and welt was decided on? I think a light antique would be a stellar contrast if that hasn't been decided.

    Also, any agreement as to leather interior liner? In maybe a dark burgundy or navy? Might be a nice further unique differentiating feature.
     
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  5. Afinepairofshoes

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    Great thoughts on welt colour and interior colour - typically mto at this level are made with soft cream leather and would compliment Cognac Cordovan very well. Light antique would suit with a crimped edge detail.
     
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    I agree with that.
     
  7. CHRK33

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    Light antique and crimped edge sounds perfect.

    Would we be able to do a different color than cream if people who buy in agree? Cream is fine though if it is the only option.
     
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    Count me in as #1 for the AS Benson.

    If I order directly from your website, how do I include lasted tree?
     
  9. lee_44106

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    I've been proposing a medallion wholecut in dark shell cordovan, kinda like this:

    http://alfredsargent.co.uk/exclusive-range/hurst/
     
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  10. hst

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    I would have like to join the mto for the Ramsey cordovan earlier, but I saw the post only after the order was closed.
     
  11. CHRK33

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    Final thought, I promise. :embar: Any options as to the medallion on the toe? This seems like a particularly stellar choice:

    [​IMG]
     
  12. NAMOR

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    Thanks for the heads up, so you intend to size down an entire size aand slim down to an "E" width? My C&J 337 measure 33cm x 11.4 as do most of my other balmoral dress shoes. Based on that, I would need a UK11.5E? The measurements for the 11.5F - 32.9cm x 11.5 - seem a little wide. An 11UK looks too short.
     
  13. Harrydog

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    Yes, I will be a 9.5E.

    If the sole measurements match like you said, you should be fine.
     
  14. Afinepairofshoes

    Afinepairofshoes Senior member

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    The pattern has to be as the AS Benson & AS Miller are. At this level of mto we can set the materials used and the colour and the last. Further changes would need to go up to AS Handgrade level where you can effect all items, but for a greater price.
     
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    Thanks for confirming. About to place my preorder for the Benson.

    Just wanted to confirm that the edge trim will be light antique with a crimping detail. I have seen cognac with the light antique versus dark edgetrim and it makes a world of difference in my opinion.

    Thanks for putting this together and giving us the opportunity to purchase a Handgrade model that is beautiful at an Exclusive pricepoint. Hopefully, we can get enough people together to make this happen.
     
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  17. Afinepairofshoes

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    Yes, we will go with the light antique welt and crimped finish - they will be fantastic, I'm sure of it.
     
  18. CHRK33

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    Deposit placed...with matching lasted shoe trees.
     
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  19. Afinepairofshoes

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  20. Afinepairofshoes

    Afinepairofshoes Senior member

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    Update! Things are starting to move.

    Order count : AS Benson = 2
    AS Miller = 0
     

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