A Daily "Mens Clothing" and "Streetwear and Denim" Fit Comparison Thread

[porcelain monkey]



I think both would have done a bit better if they swapped trousers with each other.

Paging Mr. Sam.

 

[LA Guy]



Now, your analogy works, because SW&D does require knowledge of an aesthetic that has few masters. If you gave every SFer $25,000 to spend on the Atelier brands, all (excepting the few who had the requisite background) would look bad. With a knowledgeable Atelier SA as a guide, many would look good, by the Atelier mindset/criteria. I'd only say add that this knowledge is ephemeral. When Atelier closes, its aesthetic vision may not long outlive it. So while it may be more difficult to master, is it ultimately more rewarding? Fashion's built-in obsolescence may make it more difficult, but I think it can be a pointless difficulty.

I disagree that the knowledge is ephemeral. You are not trying to master one choreographed dance.

 

[Despos]

About six years ago (I can't quite remember exactly when the change occurred), Style Forum was not divided between "Mens Clothing" and "Streetwear and Denim." There was only a single "Clothing Forum."

The original What Are You Wearing Right Now? (WAYWRN) thread, thus, made no distinction among what bias of style or objective in dress a member of SF might have when posting. This absence of distinction also applied, of course, to all of the other clothing threads.

Some viewed this state as cacophony. Some viewed it as opportunity. Most, of course, did not care since the vast majority of SF members are largely passive consumers of other people's posts.

The idea to create a new "Streetwear and Denim" forum out of the Clothing Forum is encapsulated in this thread.

http://www.styleforum.net/t/9644/new-streetwear-forum

What the Styleforum hath separated, let no man joineth together. This is the way of the blog.

 

[The Thin Man]



I disagree that the knowledge is ephemeral. You are not trying to master one choreographed dance.

Fair enough. If MC is that one dance (and it may be), it's a particularly complex one. The steps from the early '30s were similar to those in the early '60s, and were the clear basis for today. Not that most MC posters look timeless, but some do.

SW&D may be more multidimensional, but as you get deeper into your 30s or 40s, the imperative to continually update how you apply what you've learned seems thankless. You run the risk of looking very dated, with the stylistic language that you're using communicating to fewer and fewer people.

Anyhow, the contemporary-market dimension of SW&D has been hugely helpful to me. I guess my raw denim and W+H henleys will look decent for at least several years. I just don't live a life that lends itself to the Antwerp 6, etc.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I'm with Fred G on these two. Both are discordant and don't make a lot of sense, despite each having one or two good elements. If I didn't know better I would think that both were simply trying to imitate the norms of the forums they are posting in, rather than actually understanding them. In these pictures, it's like the MC example is an SW&Der doing MC badly and the SW&D one is an MCer trying and failing to go street.

 

[JubeiSpiegel]



I'm with Fred G on these two. Both are discordant and don't make a lot of sense, despite each having one or two good elements. If I didn't know better I would think that both were simply trying to imitate the norms of the forums they are posting in, rather than actually understanding them. In these pictures, it's like the MC example is an SW&Der doing MC badly and the SW&D one is an MCer trying and failing to go street.

+1

Agreed. Another interesting point, the SWD crowd seems to favor the MC effort. While the MC crowd gives more credit to the SWD offering.

If the OP has succeeded in anything, it is in getting each side to concede some appreciation on the other. With the usual snark thrown in, of course...

 

[F. Corbera]

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[JubeiSpiegel]

^ The Row is looking Sharp...

 

[JubeiSpiegel]

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[poorsod]



Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Addendum #1: 03.24.12

You buy Anderson & Sheppard suits. She buys Anderson & Sheppard. That is all.

 

[NOBD]

Hobo is too MC, I think, Parker: the funny-socks-type... Why not just Helvetica or Univers? I think those can be used succesfully for both MC and SW&D style(s).
(Sans can be very MC – conservative business dress even, Fox. Think of all the 'big business logos'.)

 

[MyOtherLife]



Comparison #1: 03.22.12

Ringing in late on Comparison #1

First of all some clarification: I am certain that both these gentlemen are very nice people. This is not about personality.
CTP120's outfit (Left) while not very exciting is at least well fitted and respectable. You can go anywhere in this outfit.
Ivwri's outfit (Right) ..well LOOK at it! The shoes are ridiculous and the outfit hangs on the man like a garbage bag. A sheer waste of money.

 

[F. Corbera]

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[SpooPoker]

This is the first SWD fit I have ever seen Parker post. Dude, yer doinitrite.

 

[Coburn]



Comparison #1: 03.22.12

I don't care care for SW&D but... my 2 cents.
This would work better if the trousers were lengthened to cover the top of the shoes. Then the drape and length of the jacket would echo the drape of the trousers. If I wore that, I would tuck in the shirt (sweater?) and top it with a hat. There is no way to fix the shoes.

CTP120 has a good fit but I hate seeing sport coats without ties. To me it looks like a junior executive at happy hour who forgot his tie on the bar stool.