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2012 50 Best Restaurants in the World List

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Bear in mind that there are different panels in different parts of the world to try and give some semblance of balance and to make sure that the list is not totally euro-centric given that it originates in London. So, the appearance of certain US places represents the way the panels are set up as much as it does the quality of the restaurants themselves.

As far as I am aware there is still no requirement to prove that you have been to the restaurants you vote for. There certainly was not last year when I was on the UK panel. I was just asked to nominate seven (if memory serves me)places I had eaten in the previous eighteen months. I can't speak for anyone else, but I only chose places that I had actually visited. It would have been a silly exercise otherwise. I suggested people should submit their receipts with their votes, but never got a response.
 

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Why does David Chang constantly place on this list? I don't get it.
 

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TFL at 43 and Amber (Hong Kong) at 44, which I just went to recently - I find that strange. I haven't been to TFL but I imagine just the experience of driving out to wine country and eating in TK's little fine dining shack is more memorable than pushing an elevator button and eating anonymous pseudo-French in a Chinese luxury hotel.
 

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See that quote above. Panels are weighted somewhat equally by region, and the voters don't even have to go to the restaurants they vote for. So places with lots of buzz or good PR get voted up and capitalize on it.
 

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I really don't understand how TFL went from #1 restaurant in (all of) the Americas to something like 40 on the list. Having dined there, I put it easily in my top 3. Is Per Se that much better?
 

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I have very little experience with Chang and none beyond Ma Peche but isn't Ko supposed to be his flagship? So what is this Ssssam Bar or whatever that is on the list?
 

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It's probably too tiny top matter.
 

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I have very little experience with Chang and none beyond Ma Peche but isn't Ko supposed to be his flagship? So what is this Ssssam Bar or whatever that is on the list?


Ssam is wrapping stuff in lettuce like hand rolls; I think at Ssam bar he makes things like his Bo ssam (pork shoulder with lettuce wraps) and the $100 fried chicken.

At Ko he makes things like an amuse bouche of a pork rind sprinkled in the lowest quality S and B brand shichimi tougarashi, and a 'kimchi consomme' that is like the strained version of a broth that Korean $2 noodle shops serve.
 

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In other words, neither one deserves to be on the list ...
 

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