Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Sixth_Sense, Dec 23, 2011.
2012...maybe buy a cashmere jumper in the next couple of weeks, made in China of course.
- Upgraded my shoe collection, figured I liked Aldens and the clunk...stuck with it and ran with it
- Grew a bad ass beard, 7+ months of not shaving is easy, the first shave after, is not
- Rounded out my work wardrobe, only to basically go a little more bis casual at work this year after tearing a brand new pair of bespoke pants in my classroom stuffed with 40 desks and no room to move in.
- found Epaulet and revamped my more casual wardrobe
- get 2 bespoke overcoats
- sell a few pair of expensive jeans I don't wear enough to help fund the previous
- continue to buy clunky Aldens (pre-orders to be delivered this year)
- get a few more Rivet Chinos from Epaulet
- get a Wings & Horns Grey Crewneck Sweatshirt
- grow another bad ass beard
Which tailor did you use to get a bespoke suit? Are you happy with the results?
- discovered the power of CBD
- threw out loads of tripe
- first three bespoke suits
- first bespoke shirt (sample from Budd received, 3 more in order to follow
- 2 x Hober per month, in satin, reppe, cashmere, and fina grenadine. Navy, burgundy, green, brown, grey, and purple solids only.
- half a dozen bespoke suits
- replace one dozen work shirts with bespoke
- try to limit myself to one pair of C&J shoes / month
- keep body fat below 10%
Been there, done that. Got a barber to do the actual bad ass beard removal.
That's an ambitious - and expensive - 2012 endeavor
the key is not to spend money on frivolities like food
It could all depend upon quality/cost. For my own curiosity though, I calculated the range.
24 hober: ~$2400 (24*$100)
12 C&J: ~$6000 (12*$500)
Constants total: ~$8400
Low end Bespoke:
6 bespoke suits: ~$9000 (6*$1500)
12 bespoke shirts: ~1800 (12*$150)
Bespoke total: ~$10800
Total w/ constants: ~$19200
Mid range Bespoke:
6 bespoke suits: ~$18000 (6*$3000)
12 bespoke shirts: ~$3000 (12*$250)
Bespoke total: ~$21000
Total w/ constants: ~$29400
High end Bespoke:
6 bespoke suits: ~$27000 (6*$4500)
12 bespoke shirts: ~$6000 (12*$500)
Bespoke total: ~$33000
Total w/ constants: ~$41400
Conclusion: Even in the lightest situation, that's... more than just cutting back on a food budget. Good luck to you on it.
Definitely will achieve 3% bodyfat me reckons.
I'm not much of one for frivolous spending. While I enjoy the instant gratification, it fades pretty quickly and I am left with things I suddenly find myself wanting more from. On the other hand, I derive great pleasure from custom ordering. Related to this, I also found that I really prefer dealing with individuals and small companies. I came to this conclusion through my dealings with Ramalhoni, G&G, Panta, GShen (Now Vanda), Hamilton Shirt makers, and of course the wonderful Mr. Chris Despos. I have found that the quality of and affection I have for the items I have purchased from these makers exceeds that of the rest of my items of apparel. Part of this is because I enjoy the sense of ownership I have in being a participant in the process of their creation, even if that participation is minimal. The thing I like most though is being able to interact with the people who do, or are involved in the making. I enjoyed knowing that when I ordered ties from Edmorel, it was most likely Ed himself who packaged the whole thing himself and sent it out. I have saved the note I got from GShen asking for any feedback I might have because they wanted to make the ties the best that they could.
Because of this, my big insight was that for me the thing to do was skip the (apparently common) SF ritual of throwing out all of your old things and then going to find new, SF approved ones on the cheap from B&S or Ebay. Instead I set my goal at learning to be able to be content with the things I have for now and patiently save. That way, though I bought fewer things, they are of higher quality and made to my specifications. This was a big revelation for me, because I've never been much of a spend thrift and this realization has affected me in other areas of my life.
While I have certainly learned a great deal during the last year - i.e. what constitutes good fit/quality/styling/etc - these other points seem deferent to the primary bit.
My big goal for 2012 is going to be nailing down a basic idea of what I want to say with my clothing, and what I want my clothing to say about me. One of the big reasons for this is because the first time I sat down with Chris to talk about having something made, we didn't really talk about what I wanted to make. We talked about me, what I do, and what I'm like. Chris said that this was because when he makes things, he wants them to be portray how the wearer wants to be seen. Ever since that conversation, I've tried to continue to narrow that down idea. While I will continue I think having at least a foundation for that in 2012 is something doable.
I also want to continue expanding my general knowledge of what is out there in RTW. While I did some of this in my process of deciding that I wanted to be patient, I will be the first to admit that my knowledge is still lacking and I'm sure there's much useful that can be learned through these investigations. SF has been a great source for pictures and information, one of the things I really find most useful is getting to see things in person and hold them in my hands. This was a big part of why my first real foray into MTO shoes was with G&G, because I met both Tony and Dean, and was able to accurately picture and elucidate what it was I wanted. There are a few good places around Dallas to do this. Things I want to get my hands on for a look are Vass, John Lobb, E. G. Cappelli, Marinella,
I want to continue to do business with the small makers and businesses I've been dealing with so far, and expand that. I definitely am making it a goal to become a patron of Sam Hober. I am making it a goal to I am making it a goal to buy some Pocket squares from Acecow. I am making it a goal to keep up with, find, and buy something from Spoo because he's a hell of a positive force here on the forum and that sort of thing should be rewarded.
Finally, I want to improve the quality of my posts. While I generally succeed at reading far more than I post, I still feel like many of the comments I do make could be more substantive. This is not to say that I plan to avoid derailing threads by going off on tangents with stitchy, but I do feel I should be more thoughtful in my responses more often.
- losing weight can be very expensive (nothing fits anymore)
- losing weight can be exciting (blank slate)
- had not really settled on my style (and what works for me). Too much of what I think I should be (but doesn't work). Too much of what my parents think I should be. Too much randomness.
- discovered SF
- get the basics right — I gotta start a wardrobe from scratch
- find my personal style
- learn much more about how to find the proper fit without going crazy
2011 Insights - I have already enough clothes to get me through the next 10 years
2012 Plans - Something in shell cordovan, shoe or boot (or 1 or 2 of each). It's time.
Went from 1 suit to 5 suits
Bought first Tuxedo (BB GF)
Own more shoes than my wife
Peak lapel navy pin stripe suit (MTM or Bespoke)
Quality over Quantity
Buy things because they fit not because they are on sale
2011: I did pretty well and did all that I wanted to do. Didn't buy any shoes, everything I bought was bespoke.
2012: More bespoke suits. I will also like to add one pair of shoes and get more bespoke shirts, ties. I need more socks.
2012 Clothing Plans
- Buy a few but quality tailored garments.
- Enjoy wearing those made during 2011
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