2010 Tour de France Thread

[Plestor]

Originally Posted by 4Mica

Except he wasn't shifting when his chain threw, if you have Versus on demand you can see that at 135:20ish. Maybe it is his team's fault for using SRAM or the mechanics fault but it wasn't Shleck's fault. And Alberto is full of it "I didn't see the chain come off and I didn't hear it on the radio." Just be a man a say "I took advantage of my rival when I could."
Fine he hit a bump (notice the rear wheel jumping) (eg caused a mechanical which made him stop). Thanks for enhancing my point. SRAM doesn't just drop like that either he blew it (see the pot hole or the changing gears) or as you mentioned his team mechanic is a buffoon. NB: Cycling News agrees with initial thoughts, although schleck denies it for obvious reasons. Re: my examples (obviously all of them aren't re: lance) As for Beloki he was ~5s in front netting 35s from the lead... If you want to argue time you would have been fine with Schleck doing the same thing to Contador? His rear tyre rolled a mechanical as much as Sheck was, merely going downhill rather than up. NB: one of the riders actually did pull over for Beloki. I completely disagree re: instantly over I've seen riders get up fine from worse looking crashes, I've seen the reverse too (tamer looking crashes being tour ending). As no comments re: Rogers? (who also had a mechanical causing a crash). Laurent Fignon did the same thing in '87 he went on to win the stage after they ignored his mechanical. How about George Hincappie and his fork issue in the Paris Roubaix? I can pull more out if you want...

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by Plestor

Fine he hit a bump (notice the rear wheel jumping) (eg caused a mechanical which made him stop). Thanks for enhancing my point. SRAM doesn't just drop like that either he blew it (see the pot hole or the changing gears) or as you mentioned his team mechanic is a buffoon.
NB: Cycling News agrees with initial thoughts, although schleck denies it for obvious reasons.


Re: my examples (obviously all of them aren't re: lance)

As for Beloki he was ~5s in front netting 35s from the lead... If you want to argue time you would have been fine with Schleck doing the same thing to Contador? His rear tyre rolled a mechanical as much as Sheck was, merely going downhill rather than up. NB: one of the riders actually did pull over for Beloki. I completely disagree re: instantly over I've seen riders get up fine from worse looking crashes, I've seen the reverse too (tamer looking crashes being tour ending).

As no comments re: Rogers? (who also had a mechanical causing a crash).

Laurent Fignon did the same thing in '87 he went on to win the stage after they ignored his mechanical.

How about George Hincappie and his fork issue in the Paris Roubaix?

I can pull more out if you want...

Are you alleging Lance was riding against George in the Hell of the North? Huh.

I don't remember the Rogers.

Hey, you have a viewpoint and nothing anyone here says will change it. I can think of better things to argue about. /shrug

 

[Plestor]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Are you alleging Lance was riding against George in the Hell of the North? Huh.

I don't remember the Rogers.

Hey, you have a viewpoint and nothing anyone here says will change it. I can think of better things to argue about. /shrug

See the bold in my edit.

He was ahead with chicken in the '07 (virtual yellow) , a tire issue caused a crash (collarbone), he continued riding for most of the rest of the stage before retiring.

 

[4Mica]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Are you alleging Lance was riding against George in the Hell of the North? Huh.

I don't remember the Rogers.

Hey, you have a viewpoint and nothing anyone here says will change it. I can think of better things to argue about. /shrug

+1

 

[Luc-Emmanuel]

Nice move from Armstrong. It would be spectacular if he could go to the end, 139km left.
!luc

 

[Merckx]

Hmmmm ..... interesting team dynamics developing at Team AG2R.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/roch...ping-with-tyre

Nicolas Roche is furious with AG2R teammate John Gadret. The Frenchman not only refused to stop and give team leader Roche a wheel during Monday's stage, but went on to attack.

"If John Gadret is found dead in his hotel room in the morning, I will probably be the primary suspect," Roche wrote in his blog for the Irish Independent. The two have been teammates for two years, and have only a working relationship. "But after today's stage, as he sat beside me on the team bus I had great difficulty in not putting his head through the nearest window."

Roche was not about to forgive and forget. "After the stage, I reminded Vincent that Gadret was on the team for another two years, and that I hoped he never asked me for anything again, because I would not forget today for a long time," Roche said. "By the time I got onto the team bus, Vincent was already in the middle of a blazing row with Gadret.

"Although I wanted to smash his head in, and had visions of a baldy French climber exiting through the windscreen, I let Vincent do his job as team manager and said nothing. I got off the bus as quickly as possible and travelled to the hotel in the team car. I couldn't stand to be near him. I will have to keep my hands in my pockets at the dinner table."

 

[Pilot]

Well looks like Schleck couldn't outride Contador on the Tourmalet. Contador just stayed around all day and allow schleck to win the stage. Little hug and face pat afterwards. I guess Schleck is no longer mad.

 

[RedLantern]

^ he was probably to tired to be mad. I'm sure his stomach is still at least half filled with anger. Also, I couldn't help but wonder how the stage would have played out if Andy had been the one to sit on and Contador had to attack. Man, I just flat-out don't like Contador. I hate that stupid wink. He's a pretty boring rider to watch.

 

[Pilot]

Idk i kinda like him. I wouldn't call him boring. he just doesn't randomly attack like a lot of the younger climbers do (althogh he is young himself). He plots out his rides and I think he rides very intelligiently. What would he have gained by beating schleck by 4-5 seconds? Andy could have gone off the front and tried to pull away. Contador is in yellow. Schelck is the one that has to make the move. Contador just stayed on his tire, jumped out once Schleck pulled him back in, and he just kept it that way the rest of the way up.


How about Columbia pulling the peleton along today?? 70 KMH!! Cavendish (bronchitis or not) must really want that sprint today.

 

[RedLantern]

Oh, I acknowlege that he's a very smart and talented rider, but I don't watch to see someone make all the expected, correct, moves. I want to be entertained and inspired, dammnit!

 

[Pilot]

Originally Posted by RedLantern

Oh, I acknowlege that he's a very smart and talented rider, but I don't watch to see someone make all the expected, correct, moves. I want to be entertained and inspired, dammnit!


Haha and you watch cycling why...?

 

[RedLantern]

Originally Posted by RedLantern

Oh, I acknowlege that he's a very smart and talented rider, but I don't watch to see someone make all the expected, correct, moves. I want to be entertained and inspired, dammnit!

The same reason anyone watches sports.

 

[otc]

And cavendish takes it by a mile

too bad I won't be able to watch the final stages

As to Contador...its not the wink, its that damned finger bang

 

[Wallcloud]

 

[Piobaire]

Looks like Contador in the Yellow, Schleck 2nd.

Today's TT demonstrates why I really wish Lance had stayed in retirement. It's just depressing to watch a former Titan finish 7 minutes back in an event he used to be incredible at (a TT).