ok, since no response for the past few weeks, ill drop the price and take a loss and make them $150 shipped. just that my interest lies in santoni fam, lobb museum calf, vass, and lattanzi now , my interest has waned in ae. if i dont get any buyer, i'll just keep them , i guess i have to. remember, brand new, not worn and these are the factory seconds but i dont see why they would be any different from a first. anyone interested in 150 please pm me. thanks.