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◆ The JIL SANDER & RAF SIMONS shopper thread ◆

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by _yoo, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. palma

    palma Senior member

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    Can we get a list of places to kop them as well. I don't remember seeing all the pieces on JIL website. Should have just included all the balla houses here and called it the The Swagger Thread...affordability not considered.
     
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  2. _yoo

    _yoo Senior member

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    I'm frankly pretty confused here. Oki-ni describes the dark blue sweater as 'woven' whereas LVR describes the light blue sweater as 'knit' . Those are not versions of the same sweater though, the light blue is 100% cotton and the dark blue partly nylon.

    I did a reverse image search but, alas, didn't find any pictures higher-res than these
     
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  3. _yoo

    _yoo Senior member

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    My lists of stockists, some have empty stock atm but may replenish in the future. Additions welcome!
    Fashionsauce and labelfinder also have good lists


    JIL

    Retailer URL
    Aloha Rag http://www.aloharag.com/highseas/dept.asp?s_id=0&dept_name=JIL+SANDER&dept_id=5239&WT.svl=deptnav2
    APROPOS http://www.apropos-store.com/shopby/designer/detail/filter/682/?limit=54
    Barneys http://www.barneys.com/Mens/MENS04,default,sc.html?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Jil Sander#&sz=121
    Bergdorf Goodman http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/sear..._requestid=34&Ns=SELLABLE_DATE|1&N=4294966910
    Boutique 1 http://www.boutique1.com/index.php/mens.html?brand_name=620&limit=150
    boutique.ru http://www.boutique.ru/jil-sander/
    Browns http://www.brownsfashion.com/Produc...cts.aspx?&d=2439594&pc=633325&cl=2&ppc=633315
    Designs by Stephene W http://www.designsbystephene.com/jil-sander/
    Farfetch http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/search/schid-6a696c2073616e646572/items.aspx?q=jil+sander
    Harvey Nichols http://www.harveynichols.com/factfi...d=Jil+Sander&productsPerPage=all&q=Jil+Sander
    JIL SANDER e-STORE http://store.jilsander.com/navigation.asp?tskay=53F34A8E#/home/gender/U/season/main
    Laboratorio35 http://www.laboratorio35.com/View-Other-Designers/#Jil-Sander
    LN-CC http://www.ln-cc.com/men/jil-sander/icat/jil-sander-mens/
    LVR http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.a...m=undefined&fromTrend=false&trend=&SortType=0
    MAENDLER http://www.maendler.com/de/men/designermarken/jil-sander-man?limit=all
    MR PORTER http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Jil_Sander
    NAP W http://www.net-a-porter.com/Shop/Designers/Jil_Sander/All
    Neiman Marcus http://www.neimanmarcus.com/search....equestid=7677&Ns=SELLABLE_DATE|1&N=4294966789
    Nitty Gritty http://www.nittygrittystore.com/brand/category-shop/jilsander
    OKI-NI http://www.oki-ni.com/mens/jil-sander/icat/jilsander/
    Rakuten * http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/ジルサンダー/-/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
    Saks http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main...ndname||P_product_code&N=4294911968+306418052
    SelfRidges http://www.selfridges.com/en/Menswe...NDER/?brandname=JIL+SANDER&departmentId=19516
    Shopbop W http://www.shopbop.com/jil-sander/br/v=1/2534374302174659.htm
    SSENSE http://www.ssense.com/men/designers/jil_sander
    Sydney's http://www.shopsydneys.com/shop/category/collections/jil-sander/
    The Corner http://www.thecorner.com/THECORNER/.../30/gender/U/toll/A/tskay/7B4C1203/dept/tcman
    ThreeDifferent FW http://www.threedifferent.com/online-clothes-sales/0/men/0/181/1/0/0/1/Jil-Sander-men.asp
    Totokaelo W http://totokaelo.com/store/designers/jil-sander
    Tres Bien http://www.tresbienshop.net/brand/jil-sander/about/
    Verso http://www.verso.com/men/shop-by-designer/?brand=35
    yjp http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/...ンズ&slider=0&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=2084050247
    yjp http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.j...用&tab_ex=commerce&rkf=1&n=100&mode=1&slider=0
    yjp other http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.j...他&tab_ex=commerce&rkf=1&n=100&mode=1&slider=0
    Yoox F+S http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.as...spr_code=&textSearch=&last=ene_designer&last=
    Yoox shoes http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.as...extSearch=jil_____sander&last=macromicro_yoox
    Zappos http://couture.zappos.com/n/es/d/722699442/order_by/age_asc/page/1.html

    RAF
    Aloha Rag http://www.aloharag.com/highseas/dept.asp?dept_name=RAF+SIMONS&dept_id=7666&s_id=0&WT.svl=deptnav2
    Arthur http://www.arthur.gr.jp/cgis/RAF+SIMONS.html
    Attachment http://www.arthur.gr.jp/tsuhan/cgis/attachment.html
    Barneys http://www.barneys.com/Barneys-New-York/BARNEYS,default,sc.html?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Raf Simons
    BLAST http://www.basement-inc.jp/bmt/raf/
    Buyself http://item.rakuten.co.jp/buyself/c/0000000105/
    Diabro http://diabro.net/index.php/cPath/193_854
    Farfetch http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/raf-simons/items.aspx
    Forward http://www.forwardforward.com/fwd/Brands.jsp?d=M&c=Raf+Simons
    LAZZARI http://www.lazzariweb.it/shop/index.php?manufacturers_id=43&osCsid=b8672f6636bafccf6b33f8f6c8436695
    LN-CC http://www.ln-cc.com/browse/sale-me...brand=brand&bklist=icat,4,shop,mens,sale-mens
    LVR http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.a...m=undefined&fromTrend=false&trend=&SortType=0
    MR PORTER http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Raf_Simons
    Nitty Gritty http://www.nittygrittystore.com/brand/rafsimons
    OKI-NI http://www.oki-ni.com/mens/raf-simons/icat/rafsimons/
    PARK http://www.park-onlinestore.com/shop/raf-simons-m-1.html
    Park & Bond http://www.parkandbond.com/products/search?designer=raf-simons
    Por Vocacao https://www.porvocacao.com/shop/brands/raf-simons/
    Rakuten shoes http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/ラフシモンズ/靴-558885/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
    Rakuten accs http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/ラフシモンズ/バッグ・小物・ブランド雑貨-216131/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
    Rakuten clo http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/ラフシモンズ/メンズファッション・靴-551177/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
    Seven http://sevennewyork.com/men/mens-designers/raf-simons?limit=all
    Space http://www.spacetokyo.jp/item_list/bd-00602_od-0_lm-36_pg-1.html
    SSENSE http://www.ssense.com/men/designers/raf_simons
    The Corner http://www.thecorner.com/raf-simons/department/gender/U/tskay/7B4C1203/dept/tcrafsimonsm
    ThreeDifferent http://www.threedifferent.com/online-clothes-sales/0/men/0/29/1/0/0/1/Raf-Simons-men.asp
    yjp Other http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.j...merce&auccat=2084205004&rkf=1&mode=1&slider=0
    yjp shoes http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/...=&n=100&slider=0&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=23200
    Yoox F+S http://www.yoox.com/YOOX/RAF+SIMONS...Author=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=sort
    Yoox knit http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.as...extSearch=RAF_____SIMONS&last=macromicro_yoox
    Yoox shoes http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.as...extSearch=RAF_____SIMONS&last=macromicro_yoox
     
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  4. wurm

    wurm Senior member

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    Wow, nice. This should be in the first post IMO.
     


  5. _yoo

    _yoo Senior member

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    ^Good point, I'll update the first post with links when thread is sufficiently enriched. I also need to edit those lists a bit for readability
     
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  6. A Fellow Linguist

    A Fellow Linguist Senior member

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    The dark blue one looks knit to me, I can't imagine why they're calling it woven. You can pretty clearly see where they've cast on/bound off.
     


  7. _yoo

    _yoo Senior member

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    I did a bit of googling but to no avail - will defer to you though since you're the resident knit specialist! :alien:

    In other news, there's an aw09 neoprene coat in SUFU b&s right now, my size too, so tempted.

    It's the version with blue as opposed to cream sleeves
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  8. Razele

    Razele Senior member

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    Re: Raf

    Raf was the first designer I really liked, I remember my first good kop was a graphic metallic neck from FW08, from Count Kunkula.

    I've got quite a few Raf knits, some pants, tried the sneaks but not my style 100%. I would definitely buy more Raf in the future, if his seasons get better as they have.

    Would still love some Rothko knits and some metallic crew necks.

    Re: Jil

    Fell into Jil after Raf and I usually kop 1 or 2 cardigans per season, sometimes a pullover. I have two of the famous keyhole knits (black/white melange on its way and grey/white melange kopped from ages ago) and the oversized metallic collar cardigan. I got two pairs of shoes and a pair of boots, quality is quite good, far better then Margiela.

    Would definitely buy heaps more Jil. Will kop 1-2 cardigans a season and maybe some outerwear if I find the right piece.
     


  9. jwjp

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    Could someone explain the whole 'raf/jil is dead' sentiment to me? Is it just his collections have got worse or is there more to it? It seems like I read words to that effect fairly frequently, but I'm never really sure why (noob :embar: )
     


  10. A Fellow Linguist

    A Fellow Linguist Senior member

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    In the early 00s Raf made some really stunning collections with strong youth culture and futurist influences. S/s 02, otherwise known as "Woe Unto Those Who Spit On The Fear Generation . . .The Wind Will Blow It Back" is usually considered his best work. F/w 02 "Virginia Creeper" is my favorite, though, and I think S/s 04 "May the Circle Be Unbroken" is underrated.

    S/S 02 looks like this:
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    Really bold, interesting stuff. Lately though, his shows have been a lot more tame and for lack of a better word, less Raf-y. More suits, knits, and other basic stuff that normal people might want to wear. A lot of people think he's sold out and become more commercial, but IMO the recent collections are still quite good. He uses more couture-like shapes, and relies less on what some might consider gimmicks, like the flares from s/s02, the forest presentation of f/w 02, etc. To me it seems like the people saying "Raf is dead" are usually only familiar with the really extreme stuff from "Woe Unto Those. . .", "Consumed", "Closer", etc. The more recent seasons are pretty similar to his earlier stuff, from the mid to late 90s. F/w 2011, "Rise of the Craftsman" is, to me, like a refined version of F/w 95, his first collection. Same focus on tailoring, school uniform influence, etc. I suck at embedding videos so here.
     


  11. Razele

    Razele Senior member

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    I think a lot of people bought into Raf as being avant garde and he got really tailored in his collections after 08 or so, after the Rothko knits?

    Quite a few seasons were pretty bad IMO, but last was better so there is hope.

    At one point people said Jil men's was the new Raf mainline. Certainly was better for some time.
     


  12. A Fellow Linguist

    A Fellow Linguist Senior member

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    Tbh I get recent Jil and Raf collections mixed up in my head a lot, so I can see the argument for that. For a while I thought that Jil collection with the Lambie inspired prints was Raf. And if we're talking about bad Raf seasons, there a quite a few beyond the recent ones. I think Black Palms is terrible. People often cite that Raf beach towel as a sign of his downfall, but nobody ever mentions the stupid Raf x Coca-Cola collab from 98 or whenever it was.

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  13. PabloDiablo

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    The short answer: people who are trying to be hip and trendy go around spouting such nonsense, and media "tastemakers" just add to the problem when they get bored and can't figure out anything else to write about. Ignore them and live better.
     


  14. PabloDiablo

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    Awesome, thanks for those links, great morning coffee reading! By the way the detail in those sweaters is amazing, really beautiful, with prices to match I'm sure!
     


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    The dark blue one on oki-ni I think is woven
    The light blue one on LVR I think is first woven(the orange part) and then blue knitted.
     


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