◆ The JIL SANDER & RAF SIMONS shopper thread ◆

[wurm]

Kind of seems inappropriate to have Jil and Raf in the same thread now.

 

[Zeemon]



So Jil is back and no one comments?

it is not confirmed yet,
but i'd be happy if it was true
í never bought anything she designed, because i was too young pre 2005

 

[Mesta]



it is not confirmed yet,
but i'd be happy if it was true
í never bought anything she designed, because i was too young pre 2005

Oh it is, that's why I brought it up.
Could have pasted the source though...

http://www.wwd.com/fashion-news/des...nfirms-return-of-founder-5734260?module=today

 

[Desi]

I only have one Jil Jil piece because I don't think of Jil when I think of her brand. Still Rach "Professor Fab" should be happy.

 

[rach2jlc]



I only have one Jil Jil piece because I don't think of Jil when I think of her brand. Still Rach "Professor Fab" should be happy.

Yes he is!

It's hard to believe it's been over ten years. Of course, there was the one (and a half) excellent seasons in 2005-06, but really she's been out since the late 1990's.

My only fear is that fashion really has moved on to other things, including her own brand. I never really got into what Raf did, but I appreciated it from a critical or fashion point of view. The whole minimal/luxe vibe she invented really is rather old hat, and brands like Bottega Veneta have taken it into interesting, fun, and romantic territory (simple, luxe fabrics, soft colors, etc.)

Another problem is that we have SO many other options now, including entry-level brands like Uniqlo and such, that also do the minimal vibe for less money, even her own +J collection. Fashion shoppers now are not looking for that anti-80's minimal chic... they are much smarter, more informed, more discerning customers who know they have a LOT more options than when she did a men's line in 1998.

So, the jury is still out whether this is a great idea or not, BUT still I think it's great she's back at the helm. I said the same things above in 2005 and was blown away by one of my "top 10 of all time" collections (ss 2005.)

Now if only Helmut Lang would come back, I could get most of my wardrobe back.

 

[artmovement]

Kind of seems inappropriate to have Jil and Raf in the same thread now.

I still want to buy Raf's Last collection with Jil Sander! That won't be out until later in the year.

 

[Big Pun]

What site has good pics of Jil under Jil collections? Or is just a good runway archive in general? GQ seems to only have SS06 onward.

 

[Master Milano]



Yes he is!
It's hard to believe it's been over ten years. Of course, there was the one (and a half) excellent seasons in 2005-06, but really she's been out since the late 1990's.
My only fear is that fashion really has moved on to other things, including her own brand. I never really got into what Raf did, but I appreciated it from a critical or fashion point of view. The whole minimal/luxe vibe she invented really is rather old hat, and brands like Bottega Veneta have taken it into interesting, fun, and romantic territory (simple, luxe fabrics, soft colors, etc.)
Another problem is that we have SO many other options now, including entry-level brands like Uniqlo and such, that also do the minimal vibe for less money, even her own +J collection. Fashion shoppers now are not looking for that anti-80's minimal chic... they are much smarter, more informed, more discerning customers who know they have a LOT more options than when she did a men's line in 1998.
So, the jury is still out whether this is a great idea or not, BUT still I think it's great she's back at the helm. I said the same things above in 2005 and was blown away by one of my "top 10 of all time" collections (ss 2005.)
Now if only Helmut Lang would come back, I could get most of my wardrobe back.

Doesn't Helmut Lang also do minimilistic designs?

 

[Lionheart Biker]

Is Kris van assche leaving Dior?? Because there´s talk of raf simons taking over the creative director position.

 

[UserName84]

The opening looks and pastel colors of the last collection for women look really good.

 

[bows1]

Let me bold this because it keeps getting asked.

THE OPEN POSITION THAT RAF MIGHT TAKE AT DIOR IS WOMENS. GALIANO GOT KICKED OUT. THERE IS AN OPEN POSITION.

 

[KingJulien]

Quote:

Is Kris van assche leaving Dior?? Because there´s talk of raf simons taking over the creative director position.

No, that was for the women's collection. I wish, though, KVA is a ****** designer and a really bad fit for DH.

 

[Desi]

Hapsical just blew my mind. Simons dated Branquinho? dude was getting it in!!

oh and I love KVA.

 

[KingJulien]

Really? fw '12 looked like Nazi bootcamp + doves. I haven't really payed much attention to his mainline, though.

 

[sipang]



Hapsical just blew my mind. Simons dated Branquinho? dude was getting it in!!
oh and I love KVA.

C'mon dude, that's like common knowledge