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◆ The JIL SANDER & RAF SIMONS shopper thread ◆

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I believe the corner's derbies are metal chains. Seven's and eliminators carry the silver version of the chained derbies. And all these variations have the chain inserted flat along the sole.
I have yet to see the full sideway versions of these derbies in stock, which are much more obvious and probably less wearable. I wonder if they are even going to be under production.
Would love to get my hands on these,

but I might have to settle with more subtle variations :bored:


Thanks for pointing that out - does look like the main difference is vertical vs. horizontal.





For those who're interested, found these pages on JIL in an old copy of Contemporary Fashion .... I still need to scan raf redux at some point!

AyPKd.png

vhJMn.png

gSJgh.png
 
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Thanks for pointing that out - does look like the main difference is vertical vs. horizontal.
For those who're interested, found these pages on JIL in an old copy of Contemporary Fashion .... I still need to scan raf redux at some point!
AyPKd.png

vhJMn.png

gSJgh.png


Thanks for this. It was interesting to read! Been dying to read a book/biography on Jil and Raf lately. Anything out there except for Redux?
 

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Any online retailers carrying the regular "plain" Raf derbies?
 

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Thanks for pointing that out - does look like the main difference is vertical vs. horizontal.
For those who're interested, found these pages on JIL in an old copy of Contemporary Fashion .... I still need to scan raf redux at some point!
AyPKd.png

vhJMn.png

gSJgh.png
Although I like Jil Sander's design, I'm so glad Raf Simons took over the creative director helm. To me, It's better than she was still designing the brand.
 

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Let's all quote the biggest images ever on the same page they were posted
 

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Raf is back on Gilt today. Finally got my black plain toe oxfords in sz 40 for cheap!! They have the Raf fair isle a lot of people are in to and other good stuff. There is more than last time's Raf Gilt sale.
 

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Raf is back on Gilt today. Finally got my black plain toe oxfords in sz 40 for cheap!! They have the Raf fair isle a lot of people are in to and other good stuff. There is more than last time's Raf Gilt sale.


Price is good. Gilt retail price is much lower.
 

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i also bought the black raf derbies in size 41. 42's were a bit too big for me (i've been realizing im a true 41 not 42). if someone wants a pair of 42s for cheap lemme know!
 

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i also bought the black raf derbies in size 41. 42's were a bit too big for me (i've been realizing im a true 41 not 42). if someone wants a pair of 42s for cheap lemme know!


how's the quality and construction?
 

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they are superb.

imo, the quality is very slightly below john lobb and much much better than lanvin derbies that i've tried.

i remember moo saying that raf derbies were comparable to edward greens or something like that.
 

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they are superb.
imo, the quality is very slightly below john lobb and much much better than lanvin derbies that i've tried.
i remember moo saying that raf derbies were comparable to edward greens or something like that.


really? :wow: Much surprised. Do you know who makes them?

I think Lanvin sneakers quality is decent, on par with YSL but much better than MMM GAT. This made me want to avoid all MMM shoes.
The GAT looks same quality like nikes.
 

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