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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, Aug 15, 2013.
thanks, frank. tall collars are the way to go imp. all my sweaters (non v-neck) have tall collars and most of my coats as well.
i really cant rec this inis enough. its so soft and warm and the knit work is amazing.
think of a scarf as a detachable tall collar you can wear with all your tops
gift me one, brah. an awesome one.
they're all awesome brah, no mc ones though
i will probably cop a couple from greg and one from drakes
id love a SWD scarf! gift me a scarf du! <3
OK, so I feel like the kid who gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, but tell me what you think about this Casentino fit.
I love the fit overall, but the body pulls slightly when buttoned. Shirt underneath is chamois and so on the heavier side, but probably indicative of what a standard shirt and knit would feel like. Tried it on over the Mazzarelli shirt (see below...) and it looked the same buttoned.
I'm not sure it's a deal breaker for me, though my wife did notice it and point it out (yes, she saw the box on the porch and so my cover was blown... I had to resort to "Look honey! It's Italian!")
Thoughts (and opinions on whether Greg is rolling his eyes right now...)?
What I can tell you is that the Mazzarelli shirts are perfect (and I'm not interested in hearing otherwise). I love the Thomas Mason fabric, I'm actually fine with the darting, and the collar... oh my the collar. I'll say I'm feeling very Italian with this thing on.
The shoulder, chest, and waist look good, but the sleeves are way short. It's hard to tell from the picture whether the sleeves are cut too short for your arms, or whether the sleeves are being pulled up by the jacket underneath. Have you tried the coat one with just a sweater underneath? If the sleeves need to be lengthened, they should be done from the shoulder because of the working buttonholes. Not sure if there's enough material to do that.
@FrankCowperwood My personal opinion (and I don't care if that boosts the UPS stock price because we're giving them so much $$$) is that you should go 1 size up. I know some people disagree here but I've never really been into fitted coats
Dig that shirt collar
And so I'll size up and contribute to the great Casentino reverse migration of 2013.
It's funny, because while not directly comparable, the chest of this 50 Casentino is listed as 110 cm and the Alva Mackintosh I have in size 40 is listed as 111 cm.
Well, I'll be happy to get this coat right. The design and fabric definitely work for me. When my wife saw it, she immediately picked up the NY Times Sunday Magazine design edition and pointed to an article she is reading about a Milanese interior designer named Roberto Peregalli. He's quoted as saying "The Italian phrase “buttato lì” translates, roughly, as “something that seems casual whereas it is completely thought out.” And she thought that this "buttato li" applied to the Casentino fabric. I think she may be right.
I think that's exactly right.
On measurements, note that they are taken outside the garment so the thickness of the material will play in differences in fit. The only way garment measurements can really be helpful is when comparing with similar garments - which of course may not always be possible...
Also shoulder variances can make a substantial difference in feel between similar p2p measurements.
FWIW, "buttato li'" literally means "thrown there." Kind of as in "something you would just throw on."
Some of the Niche stuff (Japanese label whose designer - ex-Nepenthes has a little bit of a love affair with America, both US and South America) :
Their take on the western denim shirt - love it, but even XL is too small for me...
Paisley and flower prints are signature motifs for Niche every season :
1970's US Army inspired utility shirt/jacket - sorry I already took one of the XL for me...
Working on measurements in next few days
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