I will wait for Greg to chime in, of course, but I figured I would step in and comment on the Rota trousers I received last night. I have had my hands on Rota trousers and HY trousers, and I definitely think that the construction on the former are more "solid." The fabric also feels more luxurious. I think that HY trousers are a great value, especially in the price range, but they definitely feel a little flimsier than the Rota trousers. I think that both are very nice trousers, they are just at difference price points. The buttons are nicer on the Rota, and personally I find the cut a bit more flattering on me. But then, I have yet to try HY's american made trousers. Going forward, I think there is more than enough room in my wardrobe for both. As for Panta, the Rota trousers are about the same price as Panta. In fact, with the tailoring discount and the SF discount, I think the Rota trousers will come out less. Also, thought I would mention... got one more thing incoming.