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٭٭٭ No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread ٭٭٭ (a.k.a. I shouldn't have slept on it)

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Woah yeah great to hear James Grose is still in business! Seems like you guys also thought they were gone.

I'm interested in shearling, but looking to get something that isn't too heavy, especially for me living in 45+ winter weather. Grose DB and that Black/Brown Valstar are both beautiful. I remember asking about how warm the RAF was last season and seemed a bit too much for me, but wondering if Valstar options are a bit lighter.
I don't know how the weights compare, but for what it's worth, I bought the black James Grose shearling bomber a few years ago (the suede one). I find it's wearable even in low 60-degree weather. Definitely 45+.
 

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I don't know how the weights compare, but for what it's worth, I bought the black James Grose shearling bomber a few years ago (the suede one). I find it's wearable even in low 60-degree weather. Definitely 45+.
Nice, yeah was looking for input for the Bay Area, so good to get some perspective from someone in the area.

I'd probably be in for the DB or the RAF. I slept on the RAF last year, but the DB model looks interesting too. Would be cool to see it on someone.
 

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I wear the RAF over a t shirt whenever I can here in the bay area.
 

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Cold morning in NYC today

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TTS for a fit like this ^ (XL on me). Size up for that WWII vintage loose jacket look
 

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I'm a little worried that the leather on the IRVIN will be too thin and delicate (though it's hard to tell from pics). I guess I'm concerned for how the nappa leather will hold up when its subjected to managing the stresses of not only its own bending, but also the thick shearling underneath - sounds like a blowout waiting to happen. Can anyone who has one comment on how it's aged?
 

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umm.... it's sheepskin. It's the skin of the sheep. It's flexible but it's durable. Sheep don't explode IRL. They also don't ride motorcycles, so I guess my question is what are you planning to do in your jacket that causes these concerns.
 

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I guess I'm concerned for how the nappa leather will hold up when its subjected to managing the stresses of not only its own bending, but also the thick shearling underneath - sounds like a blowout waiting to happen.
I know nothing about this other than having observed that, in general, leather jackets with shearling underneath have been in use, like, forever. American WWII bomber crews wore, fought, and died in them. I'm thinking if it was good enough for them...
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I know nothing about this other than having observed that, in general, leather jackets with shearling underneath have been in use, like, forever. American WWII bomber crews wore, fought, and died in them. I'm thinking if it was good enough for them...
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This is the "size up" fit I was referring to
 

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umm.... it's sheepskin. It's the skin of the sheep. It's flexible but it's durable. Sheep don't explode IRL. They also don't ride motorcycles, so I guess my question is what are you planning to do in your jacket that causes these concerns.
I gotcha. For some reason I thought nappa leather was always made of lambskin, like for gloves.
 

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Oh I see. AFAIK, the only difference between a shearling with the "nappa" smooth finish vs suede, is that the suede one is sanded/sueded, while the nappa ones are tanned and finished smooth. It's the same sheepskin
 

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Also, lamb vs sheep is just a matter of age? 364 days old and it's a lamb, 366 and it's a sheep
 

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