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  1. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Any chance of you guys doing something in the minimalist double rider style?
  2. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    All this thinly-veiled violence talk is really creeping me out. At the end of the day it's 800 bucks for a jacket. Certainly, not worth... you know... prison. That said, I get the frustration. I asked for a refund on my two jackets after week 60. Charly's response was that Drew would be...
  3. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Haha. Yeah. Totes my fault for the delays. Sorry guys.
  4. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Haha, yeah. I requested a refund for my two August 2013 orders this past October. I waited until the middle of November. When I didn't hear anything I contacted my credit card company and got my money back. Bought a Schott that very day and rocked it right up until it started snowing.
  5. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Has anyone had any luck contacting Charly in the last three weeks? I've emailed a few times about my refund (was originally told it would happen the last week of October), but have received no response.
  6. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Okay. Well, WTF should I do!? I asked for a damn refund. Refund the transaction and tell Charly I want payment directly from them? Why won't this whole TOJ nightmare just end!
  7. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    To be clear, I specifically asked for my money to be returned--and was not asked if I'd be okay with transferring my place / accepting payment from another customer. Ordinarily, this would bother me terribly, but I'm worn a bit thin worrying about these jackets.
  8. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    So, I asked for a refund on both of my orders today (a TOJ0 and an A2--both from August 2013). Charly responded promptly and said that he'd "inform Drew." Two hours later I got a paypal transfer for the TOJ0 amount from a random person; I assume that Charly just "sold my spot" to someone...
  9. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    You're not being serious, but that's mostly my point: Here is a thread full of people who have been waiting well over a year, with zero legitimate responses from the company, no way to get in touch with the actual business proprietor, and virtually zero recourse, and yet what we end up with is...
  10. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Maybe it's just me, but I really don't think this situation is funny anymore.
  11. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    This conversation again? It's not a work of art, it's a practical, utilitarian item. It's value is inherent to being able to actually wear it. So, you know, getting it for seasonal wear is... a consideration, at least. Just because it's not a hassle for you, doesn't mean that people can't feel...
  12. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Oh yeah, I know. I'm just setting a personal threshold... which falls well past the point of logic and sanity. Not to poison my own well, but it boggles my mind that there are actually people willing to pay money for TOJ spots at this point.
  13. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    62 weeks on two orders. I think I'm done. Once again, it's leather jacket weather and once again I'm leather jacket-less. I'll give it until the end of the month, and then I'll be selling my two spots, or demanding a refund or whatever. This whole exercise has been a giant waste of time...
  14. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    A2 ordered on August 15 and TOJ0 ordered September 3 and I got... Nothing. Charly told me "before year end" last I checked. Let's hope my jackets at least come with zippers.
  15. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Thanks for you concern. But I wouldn't describe myself as mad. Bewildered, frustrated, and a bit impatient are closer to the truth. Can't imagine other people sitting on thousands of dollars worth of orders feel too far off. Maybe I should ******* curse less.
  16. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    **** man, I dunno. Because customers have been waiting 3x the proposed wait time for products worth collectively hundreds of thousands of dollars? I don't expect anything but some ******* transparency. If you're pushing back certain jackets four months... how about you let us know which...
  17. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Nothing about this process makes the slightest bit of sense. All condolences to the bereaved, but if your production manager is absent... hire a new one. Not to mention it should have zero bearing on the actual manufacturing of jackets. Quote: Wallets and backpacks weren't supposed to...
  18. mcsmif

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Does this mean that certain jacket types are being delayed another 4 months... or that they're actively fulfilling orders from last November and December?

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