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  1. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     No. It may have gone unnoticed by some, but about a week or so back the first column was sorted as Drew used the owner function to sort it. I'd bet he'd sort it again with the next batch (maybe?). Regardless, folks should be inserting a row, roughly in order at least. (Simply search for an...
  3. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Just saw that too. Also the update history confirms its the spreadsheet "owner". Who really knows what those updates are worth, but he was at least true to his word. He did make those notes on the sheet that updates would be made Monday.
  4. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Did Libertine end up taking down their FB page?
  5. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    780 - 5%
  6. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Precisely. Most seemed to accept Libertine's message as 100% fact. It's entirely possible they'd say anything to stop the bleeding/downpour of negative FB reviews. And it worked. The one star reviews stopped on the spot.
  7. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    List of People with Outstanding ToJ Orders 51 krayzeez (1490) 52 510kut ($1065) 53 nbird ($795) 54 goofy12 ($780) 56 Kontos 57 Yohans301 (780) 58 ro0ts ($741)
  8. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Your optimism is great, but your potential routes out of this for Drew assume the guy isn't a complete lowlife. I mean today, people were drafting up "pitch in $15 and send one of our own in" rescue plans, at no cost to the guy, until Charly came in and woke us up. If what whoever at...
  9. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Pretty much. It'd likely just read,"Still working on sorting these TOJ 0's guys. These Gmail chains are a headache. There's also a holiday coming up which would reasonably explain the 1.5 year delay. This is a huge distraction from my actual work, that restaurant you helped me buy into."...
  10. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    It wouldn't hurt to message them. If anything to remind them the shitfest is still ongoing. I sent them a message a week ago. They kindly responded within an hour and said they'd forward it to Drew. Of course, no response from Drew.
  11. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Sure, my last name was PMed about ten minutes back (a minute before you made your post regarding the gmail). The addy is in San Francisco.
  12. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Send an email to the gmail account? Seems a bit odd unless you'll be sitting on the other side actually sending us replies, no? Folks have been waiting 52 to 90+ weeks. Updates specific to orders are needed. Heaping on information to a gmail chain with no reply doesn't quite do much. Since...
  13. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    How about an update on what shipments (hopefully a leather batch) are getting sent out this week, next week, etc? Particularly would like an update on A2's from July (July...2013, that is)?
  14. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     For me, with EMS packages the postal worker has always left a package slip, requiring a signature for pick up at the PO. The thing with that is they only hold it for a 2-3 weeks before returning it to sender.
  15. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Oh man, wow. Edit: thank you for the mini-update/replies.
  16. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Just curious, when is the last time anyone received a reply from Charly? I sent him an email a few days ago. I would not be surprised if he stepped away from TOJ at some point. Wasn't it years ago he stepped away for a bit, only to be brought back by Drew when order volume permitted?
  17. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Correct. The guy never claimed to invent motos, riders, bombers, or varsities, which would be ridiculous. But he did note it was odd to see the HoB guy start offering identical products (I think the example was the reversible varsity from 2009 or 2010). Either way, personally that CS/HoB...
  18. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Hopefully that TOJ0 tracking is the first of many.. It would make sense for the guy to send out a grip of jackets/tracking before stopping by with his anticipated update. Seems like a scramble move, but it'd be the only thing to calm the villagers, really. So did anyone send the spreadsheet guy...
  19. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     This is entirely spot on. This thread's a trip. If there isn't a guy running around hysterically posting one of four replies there's guys overanalyzing vague sentences. Pass the wait time however you'd like I guess.
  20. ro0ts

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     lulz, small world. That was me.I was there with my lady's family. It's not quite brand new (last summer), but I really only get to rock TOJ on Sat/Sun--haven't got to break it in as much as I'd like. That, and just got a whiskey calf MDR last month. I don't foresee the Moto getting much burn.
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