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Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by matadorpoeta, May 15, 2006.

  1. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

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    Only partially correct.

    Oh, blogspot, I miss you. http://www.milfsivedoneandothersidid...pissyouoff.com, it was a good time.

    Fok.

    ooh I can play this game!

    Before you were married, you made it a point to sleep with everyone's mother in LA, and then you posted about it on a blog called "I slept with your mother, and she's no good in bed" With pictures. And then... you stole people's credit card numbers, and signed them up for illegal porn websites... and you make it a habit to randomly pinch people's nipples and flick cigarette butts at their genitals... and due to a gradeschool superglue accident, your fingers are stuck to your lips in the form of a "v" so that when you talk, it looks like you are giving people a gesture that represents cunningulus. Lesbians hate that BTW, they think you are making fun of them. You uncontrollably projectile vomit when someone makes eye contact with you, its a pavlovian response. And um... you have a horribly medical condition that has physically transformed you into a person who just looks like their ass should be beat.

    Oh, and you are a kleptomaniac.
     
  2. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    Klinsman should stay, german team has impressed me and if it matures a bit it could be a big shot in 2010.

    !luc


    There's rumors that he might be taking Bruce Arena's job. He lives here in the US after all.
     
  3. romafan

    romafan Well-Known Member

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    Zizou will speak on Canal(?) TV in a couple of hours. Any predictions as to nature of provocation? Religion? Immigrant-origins? Familial insult? All of the above?
     
  4. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Well-Known Member

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    There's rumors that he might be taking Bruce Arena's job. He lives here in the US after all.

    Yes, when asked about it a couple weeks back he made a comment that could be taken as "cryptic" or plainly "disingenuous". He said that he wasn't thinking about any such thing (taking over the US job) and was only focusing on the Cup. Hmmm. Rumor had it though that he met with the president of the USSF, <someone> Gulati.

    bob
     
  5. Luc-Emmanuel

    Luc-Emmanuel Well-Known Member

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    I see. That would make sense.

    !luc
     
  6. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Well-Known Member

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    Here is something from soccer365.com back on the 5th.

    "While such rumors have been stirring since the U.S. failed to advance from group play at the World Cup, The Daily Telegraph is reporting that an anonymous American federation official said a deal was in the works.

    "The reports claim that the U.S.' proposal includes a pay package worth more than Klinsmann's current £1.5 million ($2.78 million) a year deal with the Dfb. That would be nearly three times what Arena currently earns."


    bob
     
  7. Fabienne

    Fabienne Well-Known Member

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    Zidane to grant an interview on Canal + at 7:40 pm Paris time.

    The FIFA's president has not ruled out striping him of his "best WC player" title. The incident is under investigation.

    To be continued.
     
  8. Fabienne

    Fabienne Well-Known Member

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    "des mots très durs" rÃ[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]s "plusieurs fois", des mots "qui sont parfois plus durs que des gestes" sur sa "mère" et sa "soeur".
    He apologized for the act, without regretting it.
    "le coupable, c'est celui qui provoque".
     
  9. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Well-Known Member

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    "des mots très durs" rÃ[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]s "plusieurs fois", des mots "qui sont parfois plus durs que des gestes" sur sa "mère" et sa "soeur".
    He apologized for the act, without regretting it.
    "le coupable, c'est celui qui provoque".



    Hard words repeated many times? Something about his mother and his sister? "...que des gestes," what's that?

    bob
     
  10. Fabienne

    Fabienne Well-Known Member

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    Zidane s'excuse mais ne regrette rien
    LEMONDE.FR | 12.07.06 | 20h32 "¢ Mis à jour le 12.07.06 | 20h45


    ZinÃ[​IMG]dine Zidane s'est excusÃ[​IMG], mercredi soir sur Canal+, pour avoir assÃ[​IMG][​IMG] un coup de tête au dÃ[​IMG]fenseur italien Marco Materazzi lors de la finale du Mondial 2006 de football entre la France et l'Italie.


    "Je m'en excuse auprès des enfants et des personnes qui ont regardÃ[​IMG] cela, a dÃ[​IMG]clarÃ[​IMG] le meneur de jeu français. Bien sûr que ce n'est pas un geste à faire. Je tiens à le dire haut et fort parce que cela a Ã[​IMG][​IMG] vu par deux ou trois milliards de tÃ[​IMG][​IMG]spectateurs et des millions et des millions d'enfants qui ont regardÃ[​IMG] cela."


    "LE COUPABLE EST CELUI QUI PROVOQUE"

    Il a affirmÃ[​IMG] avoir Ã[​IMG][​IMG] insultÃ[​IMG] avec "des mots très durs". InterrogÃ[​IMG] sur la teneur exacte des propos de Materazzi, Zidane a indiquÃ[​IMG] que "c'Ã[​IMG]taient des choses très personnelles, cela touche à la maman, à la sÅ“ur. Il dit des mots et il les rÃ[​IMG]pète plusieurs fois. Vous les Ã[​IMG]coutez une fois, vous essayez de partir. C'est ce que je fais parce que je m'en vais en fait. Vous Ã[​IMG]coutez deux fois, et puis la troisième fois..."

    Michel Denisot lui a demandÃ[​IMG] si la rÃ[​IMG]alitÃ[​IMG] "recoupait" ce qu'avaient rapportÃ[​IMG] les tabloïds anglais qui, s'appuyant sur des spÃ[​IMG]cialistes de la lecture labiale, ont accusÃ[​IMG] l'Italien d'avoir dit : "On sait tous que tu es le fils d'une pute terroriste." Zidane a juste rÃ[​IMG]pondu : "Ben oui".

    Le joueur, qui a pris sa retraite à l'issue du Mondial 2006, a toutefois indiquÃ[​IMG] "ne pas regretter" le coup de tête qui a provoquÃ[​IMG] son expulsion à la 110e minute de la rencontre. "Je ne peux pas regretter mon geste car cela voudrait dire qu'il avait raison de dire tout cela", a-t-il expliquÃ[​IMG].

    Au sujet de l'enquête disciplinaire diligentÃ[​IMG]e contre lui par la Fifa, Zidane a rÃ[​IMG]pondu que, selon lui, "le coupable est celui qui provoque". "Mon geste n'est pas pardonnable mais il faut sanctionner celui qui a provoquÃ[​IMG]", a-t-il lancÃ[​IMG].


    Le Monde.fr Avec AFP
     
  11. rdawson808

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    "LE COUPABLE EST CELUI QUI PROVOQUE"



    There is this concept in the law (at least the common law as I've learned it), the gist of which is "just because someone else breaks the law doesn't give you the right to break the law."

    bob
     
  12. Ambulance Chaser

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    Zidane: Materazzi insulted mother, sister

    http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/stor...0?FSO1&ATT=HMA

    The proper course of action would have been to wait until after the game and give Materazzi a whupping in the locker room. That's what Jerry Stackhouse did after a game.
     
  13. skalogre

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    Zidane: Materazzi insulted mother, sister

    http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/stor...0?FSO1&ATT=HMA

    The proper course of action would have been to wait until after the game and give Materazzi a whupping in the locker room. That's what Jerry Stackhouse did after a game.


    I mentioned this before but Materazzi would have found himself in a hell of a bad spot given FIFA's anti-racism push if Zidane had held his temper in check and reported this. Now all the attention is on him instead.
     
  14. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if Materazzi was playing &quot;the dozens.&quot; (&quot;Hey Zizou, your momma so fat . . .&quot;). I doubt that Materazzi is in the league of, say, Gary Payton when it comes to that. Zidane really needs to grow a thicker skin.
     
  15. rdawson808

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    I mentioned this before but Materazzi would have found himself in a hell of a bad spot given FIFA's anti-racism push if Zidane had held his temper in check and reported this. Now all the attention is on him instead.

    But there is no mention of a racist insult, only that Materazzi insulted Z's mother and sister. He could have said a million things that had nothing to do with race. Like all of those things I think when people are being particularly rude to me--a la, "your mother must have spent all her time on the street corner hustling for crack rather than teaching you any manners," or so. [​IMG]

    bob
     
  16. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    But there is no mention of a racist insult, only that Materazzi insulted Z's mother and sister. He could have said a million things that had nothing to do with race. Like all of those things I think when people are being particularly rude to me--a la, "your mother must have spent all her time on the street corner hustling for crack rather than teaching you any manners," or so. [​IMG] bob
    I thought he mentioned something about his mother & sister being terrorists/Algerians. Need to find that article again. Edit: Ambulance Chaser: LOL
     
  17. Tomasso

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    I thought he mentioned something about his mother & sister being terrorists/Algerians.

    We'll never really know what was said to incite Z. He and his crew(manager, agent, sponsors, PR people, family, etc.) had been holed up since the event, strategizing the best spin to put on his actions. Z now has his "official" story and he'll be sticking to it. But, I find it hard to believe that Z hadn't heard the exact perjoritive directed at him a hundred times before.
     
  18. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Well-Known Member

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    i think the thread got lost in the big crash, but we had a soccer discussion a year or two ago, and ernest stated that zidane was not really french. he said this because at the time, zidane had stated that he was retiring from the national team, and that he was maybe considering playing for them again. ernest said (rightly) that a true frenchman would pay to be on the national team, and he was insulted that zidane would take playing for the national team so lightly. zidane's actions on sunday, and his comments today, proved ernest's point.
     
  19. manicturncoat

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    I think in this whole frenzy after the head butt Zidane has handled himself well. After the red card he walked off the field without protest and then pretty much kept his mouth shut until he gave the interview yesterday where he apologized, he would not say exactly what Materazzi actually said to him but, nonetheless, he felt he did what he had to do. That is his prerogative, he has paid the price for his gesture. It has been the French media that are trying to make a martyr of Zidane and Materazzi the villian and suggesting that when faced with these kinds of insults the only recourse is to respond as Zidane did therefore finding honor in defeat even greater than the honor of Italy's victory, now somehow tainted. There are other ways to respond, off course. I remember when Fiorentina was playing Barcelona at the Nou Camp in the Cup Winners Cup, the Barcelona supporters were chanting "Batistuta, hijo de puta" relentlessly and his response was to score an incredible goal on a volley from outside the box and then the famous gesture, "ziti tutti!". Unforgettable. [​IMG]
     
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    Am I the only one that thinks Materazzi showed pretty good poise by being able to strike a penalty kick after having his feathers ruffled by being headbutted by Zidane? I know he's the villain in all this, but for a guy that's often been looked over, he played a pretty big role in this world cup: first he was the one that was called for the foul that resulted in the PK for France, then he scored the goal for Italy, then he got headbutted, then he scored a PK - pretty active.
     

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