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Working on The Street: BB Cardovan vs. Calf Skin?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SSer, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. DerekS

    DerekS Well-Known Member

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    Fuck you're an idiot.

    agreed. I think i have about a half dozen black captoes...and they all look completely different to me.
     
  2. entrero

    entrero Well-Known Member

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    I bet he's still oblivious on the wingtips vs longwings matter
     
  3. EngProf

    EngProf Well-Known Member

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    Black Park Avenues and Burgundy Park Avenues. Go with that. If you feel pressure to add a third after a couple of weeks, you'll have had a chance to look around to see what others are wearing and will have developed a sense of whether you like that sort of thing. You'll also have decided whether Shoe Number Three should be brown, black, or (if you ask me) another burgundy. Many great vintage wingtips available on ebay.
     
  4. Achilles_

    Achilles_ Well-Known Member

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    Shells are very durable, #8 looks great, and goes with a lot of different stuff. If you throw in some black PAs and another pair of brown bals, you will have a decent starting rotation (hey it's baseball season!). OTOH, when I was walking around Wall Street a few months ago, black horse-bit loafers seemed to reign supreme. Not a great look with a suit IMO.

    x2

    I have some burgundy PA's that I picked up for $150 new, they look great with everything, and they look conservative enough to go almost anywhere. I haven't worn by black PA's since.... well I own them at least [​IMG]
     
  5. changy

    changy Well-Known Member

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    I was hoping this would be a thread about hookers wearing shell.
     
  6. Reevolving

    Reevolving Well-Known Member

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    Premium black shoes might possibly be the single biggest waste of a limited budget.
    Don't waste your money on expensive black shoes.
    Not if you're trying to look stylish.
    Black shoes are great if you want to be invisible.
    Otherwise, stick with other colors and patterns.
     
  7. Fuuma

    Fuuma Well-Known Member

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    Premium black shoes might possibly be the single biggest waste of a limited budget.
    Don't waste your money on expensive black shoes.
    Not if you're trying to look stylish.
    Black shoes are great if you want to be invisible.
    Otherwise, stick with other colors and patterns.


    [​IMG]

    Black shoes are great, rest of the colours are optional...
     
  8. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't spend $500 on shoes if you are going in somewhere as a summer intern/analyst. You will just come across as a jackass who doesn't know his place.

    Personally, I would avoid brown shoes until you see others wearing it in the office. I know its supposed to be acceptable in the office, but its a no go where I work. No one is going to break your balls for wearing black shoes.


    please, no one is gonna care if he's wearing brown shoes, black shoes or damn near no shoes.

    All he is to them is a whipping boy for pitchbooks, and endless excel spreadsheets. If he ever leaves his desk, it will be so dark out that no one would know the difference between $50 shoes from target and $1000 Edward Greens, nor would they care.
     
  9. Archivist

    Archivist Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    Black shoes are great, rest of the colours are optional...


    +1, Testify
     
  10. sportin_life

    sportin_life Well-Known Member

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    From my frenzy of shoe buying (I blame SF), I think there actually is a noticeable difference between cheap black shoes (i.e. Kenneth Cole, Cole Haan) and decent quality ones (i.e. AE, Alden, C&J) for calf leather.

    I'll admit that I also bought some blacks in cordovan, and have decided that calf > cordovan for black. Black cordovan looks plasticky and fades at the creases and looks weird to me. My conclusion is to always buy in shades of brown for cordovan, although I know not everyone agrees.

    If I were to do it all over and just starting a shoe collection on a budget I would probably get:

    1. AE black park aves
    2. AE burgundy park aves
    3. AE black calf strands
    4. RL brown cordovan darltons

    That's all you'll need for the next 5 years, especially if you topy and take care of them. The nice thing is you can wear the strands w/ denim and not look too out of place.
     
  11. LanceW

    LanceW Well-Known Member

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    If I were in your position I would purchase black Park Avenue and dark brown Fifth Avenue. Be sure and wear them as often as you can in the evenings before you start the new job so they have a chance to break in partially before you wear them a full, long day. I would also spend some time walking on rough surfaces so the soles don't look new. (You didn't go out and buy nice shoes for the job; you've always had nice shoes.)
     
  12. SSer

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    I appreciate all of your responses. I put in an order for a pair of black park avenues yesterday.

    It's a good thing I went to the store to try them on because I am normally a 10D, but got fitted for an 11C which fit very nicely.

    Thanks again.
     
  13. lithdoc

    lithdoc Well-Known Member

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    Congrats on the purchase. Now get the 5th aves like others suggested.

    Also, I just evaluated a pair of Aldens in black cordovan. Very ugly leather! Looks like a cheap vinyl rubber type of material.
     

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