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Wing Tip San Francisco ?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by comrade, May 28, 2016.

  1. comrade

    comrade Well-Known Member

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    Driving by today I saw a "change of ownership" notice on the door of the store.
    I was driving slowly enough to be able to read that the "new" owner would be
    Burberry. This seemed odd since Burberry already has a branch on Post Street.
    Many may remember that Wing Tip hosted a Meet-Up in early 2013 in which
    the owner led Members through the private club, clothing store, and barber shop,
    all under one roof. As I had indicted in earlier posts, I was never much impressed
    with the store. To me it was a poorly curated hodgepodge of styles, brands and price
    points.
     
  2. papa kot

    papa kot Well-Known Member

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    Well said. There are much better places in the Bay Area...
     
  3. malat

    malat Well-Known Member

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    All true, but the collection of whiskeys and other spirits in the back was a sight to behold. Sad to see that go..
     
  4. chobochobo

    chobochobo Well-Known Member

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    Good riddance. They were really bad. And have put me off Alfred Sargeant shoes, a bit irrational but Wingtip's service was poor to say the least.
     
  5. comrade

    comrade Well-Known Member

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    Along with the whiskies, club and barber, they ( have) had a
    Bespoke Dept. which featured among other brands "the
    Esteemed Oxford". That further strained their credibility:

    http://store.wingtip.com/bespoke
     
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  6. GusW

    GusW Well-Known Member

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    The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Mark Twain


    Wingtip SF is still alive and well. The private club is in full swing on the top two floors while the retail side expanded recently to include a second floor for tailored clothing and shoes (St Crispin's, Alden, etc.).

    Michael and Ian at WIngtip have always given me excellent service. They also recently hired a few new folks who seem like a good addition to the staff. The club staff is also fantastic. I think one of the owners strengths is his ability to hire quality people. That doesn't mean to say that there haven't been a few weak SA's from time -to-time. But every retailer in the Bay Area will tell you that staffing is one of their major challenges. Its very difficult to find quality help on the floor.

    As far as a bad experience with Alfred Sargent, there is a reason why no retailer in SF carries the brand any more. AS became totally unreliable and hard to work with. Not exactly WIngtip's fault.

    Their range of brands seems to go from marginal to excellent. So not well curated, but there are some goodies in the mix if you know what to look for. I do scratch my head and wonder why some of the brands are even in the store.

    My professional experience has taught me that any brand, company or retailer looks best when editing out the weak links in their collections/offerings. To me, that is what continues to be the primary weakness at WIngtip.
     
  7. lexxdeleon

    lexxdeleon Well-Known Member

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    Could you lend some recommendations? I recently relocated to the Bay area and would love to check out some proper menswear stores. I've visited wingtip and it was just "okay" at best.
     
  8. papa kot

    papa kot Well-Known Member

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    There are a few shops. I am not affiliated with any of them.

    - The Hound (San Francisco)
    - The Alden Store (San Francisco)
    - Unionmade Goods (San Francisco), mostly street wear
    - Sam Malouf (Burlingame)
    - Brogue (Menlo Park)
    - Khakis of Carmel (Carmel by the Sea)
    - Robert Talbott (Carmel by the Sea)

    You also have flagship stores for the major brands and a few tailors in the city.

    As a transplant from New England, I find that Bay Area is extremely casual and it takes some time to find a professional style that does not make you stick out.
     
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  9. chobochobo

    chobochobo Well-Known Member

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    Back to Wingtip. The problem was not with AS but with Wingtip, there was a problem with a purchase, and there was absolutely no response to multiple communications.
     
  10. comrade

    comrade Well-Known Member

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    Let's not overthink this:

    Sam Malouf has a version of the " Italian for the American Market" stuff sold at Saks, Niemans, Barneys, etc and he is pushy
    to the point of being obnoxious

    Brogue in Menlo Park, five minutes from where I live, has Talbott Shirts, and Alden Shoes and, , I guess scarves.
    Thats it. Nice kids running the shop . My guess is that they will be gone by Christmas

    As a New Englander you might actually find clothing at the Hound that recalls the Ivy- Trad- Prep style of the Andover Shop,
    if that's your style. However, even the Hound is losing its edge and stocking narrow lapel jackets that are no better than the
    crap at Nordstroms.
     
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