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Why does yoox hate America?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by spidercan, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. spidercan

    spidercan Well-Known Member

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    Has anybody noticed that yoox has removed a bunch of brands from the American site, including ralph lauren, and pal zileri. Still seems to be available in the italian site but strange that they simply removed availability.
     
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    rjsphd Well-Known Member

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    I had about 5 things in my dream box disappear at once about 10 days ago.
     
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    One of the shirts I was looking at disappeared from my dreambox. On the euro site, it's been discounted down to the price I would've purchased it for...sigh
     
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    Achillus Well-Known Member

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    What has this to do with hating a country?
     
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    lasbar Well-Known Member

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    What has this to do with hating a country?

    Paranoia.

    It generally worksd very well in politics.
     
  7. Blackhood

    Blackhood Well-Known Member

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    They used to be a warehouse selling off the dregs of fashion brands. Now they are an international distribution stream selling millions of units at barely reduced prices. At some point the brands were going to notice that their shit was being sold off as "bargain" and it hurts the brand more than it helps clear stock.
     
  8. spidercan

    spidercan Well-Known Member

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    What has this to do with hating a country?
    I mean it tongue in cheek. I'm actually a bloody free marketeer, not trying to rouse the rabble.
     
  9. Amelorn

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    They used to be a warehouse selling off the dregs of fashion brands. Now they are an international distribution stream selling millions of units at barely reduced prices. At some point the brands were going to notice that their shit was being sold off as "bargain" and it hurts the brand more than it helps clear stock.

    This is my problem with shops that attempt to be online versions of Filene's Basement/Saks Off 5th/(insert discount/outlet store here). They may have had buyers in the early years who could buy smallish lots for cash at a significant percentage discount. This becomes problematic when they become huge presences. From the perspective of the design houses, a distribution channel that provided quick cash to mitigate a loss now becomes a potential for dilution and prole drift.

    6pm.com is a great example. On certain items, they do give fantastic deals (after weeks of waiting for it to hit clearance). HOWEVER, most items are sold for 10-30% discount of the MSRP. After coming home from college, I was looking to replenish some worn out basics: casual shoes, socks, underwear, khakis, polo shirts, a pair of jeans, and a couple of T-shirts. Shoes seemed to be the dregs of a DSW and only 20% off. Calvin Klein was a mere 10% off. I am not paying $22 for boxer briefs when I can get them for $15 on sale in Lord and Taylor or $10 at TJ Maxx. <--[​IMG]

    If I want to buy something at a steep discount, I either wait for when my favorite stores are doing clearance sales + offering a savings pass in the newspaper/online or go straight to the brick-and-mortar discount stores.
     
  10. rjsphd

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    i have found the service at Yoox.com to be outstanding. I have discovered brands I never saw at Filenes, even in its heyday--and I was a regular for years. But I have had a very, very low success rate. I think I have kept 3/20 items. Either the fabric was nothing like the picture, or there were flaws (holes!) or the sizing was off. From now on I am sticking to the few brands I know. That said, I was really ticked off when the items in my dreambox vanished.

    I wonder if the pricing (in the US) and the lack of discounts reflects the decline of the $.

    BTW, how do you see items on the Italian/European site?
     
  11. sjmin209

    sjmin209 Well-Known Member

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    I ordered something from them (a WWM jacket) before everything disappeared. They sent the wring jacket, and by the time it arrived, they had removed it (and all WWM products) from the site. Even though the jacket is still available &amp; listed on non-US Yoox sites, they refuse to send me the jacket I paid for.
     
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    They used to be a warehouse selling off the dregs of fashion brands. Now they are an international distribution stream selling millions of units at barely reduced prices. At some point the brands were going to notice that their shit was being sold off as "bargain" and it hurts the brand more than it helps clear stock.

    this is what has happened to yoox
     
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    I don't know about the removal of items from the US site but saying items on Yoox are barely reduced is rubbish. The Cantarelli, Sartorio, Zileri, etc etc that have gone on Yoox have gone on at about 50% of retail before any sale reductions and many are now at 70% off. I feel Yoox is by far the best of the online discount retailers, I have used them regularly for the last 3 years and they often have free shipping so even if you want to return it is not costing you much.
     
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    Paranoia.

    It generally worksd very well in politics.


    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I recently bought a really great pair of Alberto Fasciani shoes (supposedly handmade; within the site's fall-winter collection), but now that brand appears to be totally gone from the US site.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me if Yoox was experiencing the same trademark infringement issue that those trying to sell Rolex watches cross-border experience: Legally, only Rolex USA is allowed to import Rolex watches into the United States, and anyone else doing so is guilty of trademark infringement. I could see the same thing having happened here (and based on the brands who got pulled, I'd be willing to guess that RL's lawyers drafted the briefs). Only certain entities are legally allowed to import certain goods into the US and Yoox would have been in violation. Not only does their warehouse reside outside of the US, but many of the items delivered have original tags from stores based outside the US.
     
  17. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Well-Known Member

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    loss for yoox and the buyers
     
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    As a 4th of July gift to you Americans I could proxy from Yoox to you for free. I visit the post office regularly anyway.
     
  19. Kentishman

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    They used to be a warehouse selling off the dregs of fashion brands. Now they are an international distribution stream selling millions of units at barely reduced prices. At some point the brands were going to notice that their shit was being sold off as "bargain" and it hurts the brand more than it helps clear stock.
    Having dabbled in affiliate marketing and knowing some industry leaders, brands would prefer to use their own discount channels and affiliate networks to preserve their brand value(s). Coupon codes to targeting customers are the more direct way of shifting dead stock. The buyer thinks they're getting a deal, the brand shifts unwanted garments. Everyone is happy.
     
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    A ton of my stuff just disappeared 20+ items, yet they are still available outside the USA. Why do they do this? It's not that brands are asking for removal bc some stuff is still available from these other brand brands.

    Anyone have an answer for this practice?
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2011

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