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whnay.'s good taste thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Longmorn

    Longmorn Well-Known Member

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    A few other examples:

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  2. mafoofan

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    Uhh, I'm not sure where to start. Nothing really pairs with anything else, so I can't single out any particular offending agents.

    You have two really big problems. First of all, color. Purple shirts are infamously difficult to match, and usually call for a grey or blue suit if there is to be any hope of working. The idea is that you need something very sober and neutral to prevent it from clashing. Here, you've paired it with a yellow-gold odd jacket (please tell me that is not a suit). It clashes in an unsettling way. I suppose the tie could theoretically work with the shirt or the jacket, but the problem is that it definitely does work with both simultaneously. Why? Well, the navy in the tie pulls out the cooler tones of the purple shirt, which contradicts the warmth of the jacket's color. Yes, there is some blue in the jacket, but it is too faint to help. Then, there is the pocket square. The orange and teal that dominate it are totally disjointed from the rest of the outfit. At the end of the day, you have too many powerful, disparate colors isolated to individual pieces. It's really a disaster.

    Your second problem is contextual. This is the sort of odd jacket to avoid. The color is only appropriate for jacketing, but the fineness of the pattern is more appropriate for a suit. It's not just that it's wrong for this outfit, it is internally wrong and should not exist. Then you've got the shirt/tie combination. The color of the shirt and pattern of the tie have a strong city air. They belong with a suit, or at least a much slicker odd jacket. A navy blazer would be wrong for other reasons, but it would have at least saved this outfit from total catastrophe. The pocket square is just downright bombastic. I'm not sure what you could ever wear it with, but it certainly doesn't help clarify the message you are attempting to convey with the outfit.

    The funny thing is, you've done a pretty good job of combining patterns. Too bad it doesn't come into play because the color-matching is so offensive.

    Sorry to say, but this is really a total and utter loss. Burn it.

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  3. gdl203

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    huh.... I kinda like that outfit actually
     
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  4. mktitsworth

    mktitsworth Well-Known Member

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    This was part of the point.
     
  5. mafoofan

    mafoofan Well-Known Member

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    You are a certified judge and can award your own :foo: points.
     
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  6. gdl203

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    Well my scale is a little different, if that's alright.

    I rate it: "I kinda like it"
     
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  7. CaymanS

    CaymanS Well-Known Member

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    Except of course all the well-dressed men who wear grey suits, light blue shirts and navy ties every day of their lives, since it's a well-dressed man staple.

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  8. gdl203

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    I haven't been following everything that's been happening here. It's just too much material to read, but I'd simply say that there will obviously be deviations in what we consider as being good or in good taste. I am surprised that one would find mkt's outfit above as being in terrible taste - but we all come at things from a different perspective, cultural roots and personal history so some things resonate particularly strongly (either positively or negatively) sometimes. There are things that make my skin crawl that are often accepted as being cool here - evidently, it's as much my perspective as it is the objected detail itself. I learned to live with the idea that my taste isn't universal (as much as it pains me to admit it :laugh:)
     
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  9. in stitches

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    i have a hard time imagining foo would be onboard with most of victors fits.


    got from sartoriale.com about a year or so ago.

    i am very reluctant to post any photos at present, but here are two just for you. i am not proposing this to be in good taste or bad, though anyone is free to judge them, im just providing what was asked for, and its late anyways. one is actually with the same tie i am wearing today, colors came off better in this one i think. it also has very nice buttons. sadly, i cant find a decent pic of them. please excuse the road rash in the top one.


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  10. Tirailleur1

    Tirailleur1 Well-Known Member

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    You just highlighted the universal problem with this thread. Thank you for that.
     
  11. poorsod

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    The coat looks summer to me and best combined with something like a textured blue shirt and textured tie. I've seen similar material in the Carlo Barbera for Lesser 8/9 jacketing book which may explain my seasonal bias. Personally, I'm currently not in the mood for summer, although it must be summer in TX 9 months of the year. BTW that shirt looks lavender on my monitor. Is that right?
     
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  12. ThinkDerm

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    stitch. love the suit. it looks great.

    the white shirt is too formal for that second outfit, but I do like the tie with the suit.
     
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    I have no disagreement with this statement whatsoever. I like it best with the lavender, but think it looks best with the blue. This was taken at the end of summer, however I would still have no qualms with wearing it. It has been near 80 all week.
     
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    thank you, TD.
     
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    ^^^^^+1 Very well stated Holdfast.
     
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  16. ThinkDerm

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    Dress for you buddy.

    Realize that Foo in his own way is trying to be helpful.
     
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    i always do, but there is also always room to learn. and i have no doubt that he is.
     
  18. EBugatti

    EBugatti Well-Known Member

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    Guys--Foo is a pain in the ass. But, he has a point. He has been influenced by the Southern Italian (Neapolitan) aversion to white shirts--justly so--and has a great deal to say about dressing in "good taste". As Cayman says, a lot of win in his comments. If you don't like his opinion, feel free to post in WAYWRN. As has been noted before, this thread is to embrace a particular aesthetic, like it or not.
     
  19. in stitches

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    i have no dog in this fight, but that is a suit as far as i know. :) [​IMG] please lets leave the comments on mr woosters taste aside, i am pretty sure he is not going for the aesthetic of this thread. i was just pointing out that in that pic, it is a suit, not an odd jacket.
     
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