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Which Sammy model should I purchase?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by forbritisheyes, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,
    I wanted to ask if you know of any models/cuts that are similar to the Fitz. I fit my Fitz very well after bringing in the waist 1.5-2"(A more recent model I tried on at the store fit better OTR than my current one OTR - must be newer than mine). I'm looking for a model that will fit me well, at 6'1" and 185lbs(used to have athletic build, now just have broad shoulders and chest). I do like a wider lapel though, say 3.25-3.5". I'm very partial towards roping in the shoulders. You can say I'm after a fitted, conservative cut(butt-covering jacket, a bit of waist suppression, moderately high armholes) and do not like anything even near the TaT look(dreadful). Sleeve diameter is a non-issue for me, as long as it does not tighten to the point of accentuating my upper arms when raising or folding my arms. This is the silhouette I'm going after:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t7TUDUXmnP0/TdSIAQ4q7II/AAAAAAAAApc/LGMejqtugAI/s1600/CharBlue%2BSuit.png (disregard lack of shirt cuff and whether it's a 2B or 3B)

    or

    this rubinacci: http://www.marianorubinacci.net/club/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_7635.jpg

    Let me know if you have know of a model that would suit my style. For additional reference, the RLBL Anthony fit me darn well everywhere, but even that needed to be brought in an inch or so.
     
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  2. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Well-Known Member

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    The Samuelsohn Gable is very similar to the BB Fitz model in fit. It, however, is very similar in appearance as well with a natural shoulder and slimmer lapels. I'm not aware of the names of Samuelsohn models with roped shoulders, but I'm sure someone else can help on this point.
     
  3. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, I have heard of that one. I read that the jacket is cut short as well. Is this true?

    Does anyone know how the Todd, Greenwich, Gable/Geo, globe, Alton, Albert, and talbot models fit?
     
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  4. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Well-Known Member

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    My Gable and my Fitz are roughly the exact same length.
     
  5. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the input, NewShoes. Would you mind posting a picture of your Gable? You don't have to wear it, I'm just curious about how it looks. Did it have a lot of suppression when you first acquired it(OTR or MTM?)?

    I welcome anyone else that can share any knowledge pertaining to the Sammy suits. It's been hard to find comprehensive data. There was a post on AAAC that had several suits and their qualities, but many of them did not have descriptions and a few of the models that did have descriptions have since been discontinued.
     
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  7. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Well-Known Member

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    How a jacket fits me is not going to do anything for you determining how it fits you. The only way for you to figure out what works for you is to go to some stores and try on a bunch of different jackets. You may have an idea in your head of what you want, but when you actually try the jackets on, you'll probably realize something different works much better.

    I used to think my Fitz was a great fit until I tried some different makes and models, which now leave my Fitz as my worst fitting jacket.
     
  8. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    Out of curiosity(So I can later find them) what did you try on that worked better?
     
  9. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    Ah, gotcha. Samuelsohn suits.
     
  10. lordsuperb

    lordsuperb Well-Known Member

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    Any thoughts on the Samuelsohn 1923 Black Label?
     
  11. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this is new to me. It's difficult to get info because it seems a very small minority of people wear Samuelsohn.

    Still hoping someone can shed light on the Todd, Greenwich, Globe, Alton, Albert, and Talbot models fit(for general knowledge).
     
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  12. othertravel

    othertravel Well-Known Member

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    Here's a pic of an Alton SC I'm selling in one of my threads; you'll see it has a slightly roped sleeve head.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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  14. comrade

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    Roped Shoulders and Natural shoulders usually do not go together.
    In fact this combination could itself be a contradiction.

    For natural shoulders from Samuelsohn the Greenwich comes to mind.
    Another model with very natural shoulders is the Talbot. I believe it has been
    discontinued but may be available MTM.
     
  15. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    I recall reading a post in which Chris or Jeffrey said that they can be mutually exclusive( http://www.styleforum.net/t/265443/rope-shoulder-construction ). Regardless, I actually don't mind a little padding. I really enjoy roping in shoulders and padding just makes it look more structured. I should have specified this in the OP. Thanks for the input, comrade.
     
  16. othertravel

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    There's moderate waist suppression (I'd guess about a drop 7 equivalent if it was a suit).

    And yes it's a herringbone; it's an awesome SC. If it doesn't sell I'm keeping it for myself.

    You can sometimes find great deals on Samuelsohn suits and SCs depending on your location. If you're in Canada, you can find SCs for $200 and suits for $500.
     
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  17. forbritisheyes

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    That sounds awesome. Honestly, after looking at it again after several days, I think the styling is perfect. I hope it fits me when I go for the MTM program. I also hope that if it doesn't, other models look as good. It could also be that I've always found navy glen plaid and navy herringbone (and navy mini rope) suits very sexy.

    Do others have more information about styling and cut on the different models?
     
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  18. forbritisheyes

    forbritisheyes Well-Known Member

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    So I went to the Hound today. I was able to try on a Gable and Greenwich. The gable fit better, but still needed a good deal of suppression. The greenwich was very large in the waist. None had roping. The only issue with the Gable was that the lapels were a tad too narrow. The Greenwich had better styling and length(longer). I told Mike that the shoulders of a 42L seem to fit well on me, but the waist was much too large so he said when I go MTM I should get an 8" drop. 41L chest also fit me better.

    As a first experience, the Hound was pretty cool. I liked how they set up the store and all the clothing in there. I only tried on 2 models and will definitely return for the trunk show. I wish they had the Talbot and that I had tried on the Globe.
     
  19. MyOtherLife

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    Sammy my ass. It is Samuelsohn snd anyone that can't manage to say or spell it properly, doesn't deserve to wear it..
     
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  20. roveet

    roveet New Member

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    I'm glad someone posted this thread because I was wondering the same thing, namely what Samuelsohn cut should I choose. I've gone into a number of stores in the past and I haven't really had much success in getting an idea of what they have to offer.

    I am tall and have a rather thin and narrow body-type, with a 38 chest.

    I am very partial to the Anderson & Sheppard look but I'm not wholly opposed to something with a more structured shoulder.

    A while back I had a suit made in the Gable model and I think I would prefer a bit more waist suppression - incidentally does anyone know how far one can actually go with this? I haven't actually tried to get it altered and at the time it was made, I just followed the advice of the person who was fitting me.
     

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