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Which major shoe makers come without a metal shank?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Itsuo, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Itsuo

    Itsuo Well-Known Member

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    Greetings all:

    I'm involved in government work and must pass through a metal detector every morning. I used to wear shoes with a steel shank and they would set off the machine but the security would just swiftly wand me to make sure it was the shoes and let me pass. It was not ideal but it was workable. I am now finding that they require you to take your shoes off and put them through the machine TSA style. That is not a good option for me anymore.

    I have entertained the idea of leaving shoes at work and just wearing a pair of non-metallic shanked shoes to work. I did try that years ago and found it annoying when it comes to shoe care and transporting shoes to and from work.

    Now then so the question is which major shoe brands come without a metal shank? I know AE doesn't and Alden does but what about C&J, Churches, G.Cleverly RTW, AS, EG and others?

    Also while it sounds unadvisable, does anyone know any options for replacing the metal shank in shoes?

    Thank you in advance for you help.

    (I did a search for this but a lot of the posts were dated or concerned the airport which for US fliers isn't as big of a deal because now all shoes must get scanned.)
     
  2. JLibourel

    JLibourel Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you just stick with A-E under those circumstances?
     
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    many of the italians prefer wooden or leather for some unknown reason.
     
  4. Itsuo

    Itsuo Well-Known Member

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    It's a good point and to be honest it was my next thought, but then I realized how often I would be wearing them and I personally wasn't really attracted to most of the options in their collection.

    That and I'm willing to pay more for something nicer with a great fit, though probably not up into the EG/JL/St.C thermosphere (even though I'm sure they're worth it for some).
     
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    please excuse my ignorance but what are AE, EG, JL, and St.C?
     
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    Allen Edmonds, Edward Green, John Lobb, St Crispins.
     
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  8. Itsuo

    Itsuo Well-Known Member

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    From watching a video about Edward Green footwear assembly it looks like they don't use a metal shank in their soles and I've just heard back that Alfred Sargent uses a beech wood or similar wooden shank for those interested.

    Still not sure about some of the others but I now have confirmation that AS don't.
     
  9. Blackhood

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    To be honest, your best bet would be to copy your opening post into an email to all the companies that you mentioned. They have always been very helpful to me, and frankly if you're gonna drop $1,000 on shoes, I'd probably check with the manufacturer before going ahead anyway. They may even be able to accommodate you for this exact purpose (especially if they have any kind of contract supplying organizations that may need this).
     
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  10. Reevolving

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    I don't get what is so annoying.

    You just leave the metal shoes at your desk.
    You wear rubber soled shoes into the office.
    You change shoes when you get to your desk.
    Do do the reverse when its time to leave.

    You never carry anything except the first day.
    This thread is a non-issue.
     
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    You're kidding right? TSA workers can barely talk properly let alone read or write. When someone can't get a job at Walmarts or pumping gas they usually end up as a TSA agent.
     
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    All of the rubber soled shoes I disassembled (about a dozen) had metal shanks. Shank type have absolutely nothing to do with sole type.
     
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    +1, but you forgot one important thing: they combine this lack of skills with rudeness and the ability to move slower than slug.
     
  15. Itsuo

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    In Japan they offered me slippers. Otherwise in the US they do not offer any footwear while you're in the machine. I had an unfortunate encounter recently when I wore suede loafers (sockless)
    and when I took them off to go through the machine a it was just the bare floor and I picked up quite a bit of dirt on the bottom of my feet. It was unsavory to say the least. I do think at a few airports they at least have a carpet that you walk on, but certainly not all of them.
    Well when I did this I left two pairs at work (black and burgundy). But the issue I had was that I had to coordinate when to take the shoes home to polish them etc. So those days I had to carry them with me or wear them home so either way I had carry a pair every week or two. Also one thing I failed to mention was that during the day when I met for lunches they would often be outside the office. So if that happened now, I would have to change shoes before lunch which means I have to be at my desk before lunch... Not to mention the metal detectors within some of the buildings I worked in. You might not mind all that dancing around swapping shoes but it was annoying for me.
     
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    I gotta say, I'm not sure why so many people have an issue with your question; this place is full of people obsessive over what kind of thread is used in their goodyear welted shoes and whether their buttons are caroso or horn. The shank material should be quite high on the obsessive scale.

    I reiterate though; ask the companies involved. I was doing a project a little while ago and I wanted info on how they sourced their cork and leather and almost every company was more than willing to give me the time of day. I'm certain that a quick email will give you all the information - direct from the horses mouth.
     
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    Just as maybe the final update to this thread a year later, I took the advice provided and checked in with the companies first, at this point I can confirm that Alfred Sargent and Gaziano and Girling do not set off metal detectors. At this point I'm thinking maybe only Alden does!

    Does anyone know if metal toe taps would be enough to set off standard metal detectors?

    I'm down to one last pair (of Aldens in my rotation) that I have to replace and then it will be smooth sailing every morning at work!

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    The detector-triggering stepchild in the rear...
     
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    Thanks for the update, it is always good when a user finds the answer to their question and then shares the knowledge for the betterment of the community.

    Your new shoes look great, and it seems like a good excuse to buy more shoes!
     
  19. AlexE

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    Certainly not - I often keep my dress belt on at airport security (basically always unless I am told be security to take it off) and the metal detector goes rarely off.
     
  20. Hardboiled

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    Are those Alden, 907, straight-tip bal on the Hampton last in the rear? I have those same exact shoes, I also live in DC, and work in a government facility (Cap Hill) and yes they set off the detectors every day. I'm curious where you work where you have to take your shoes off to pass if they set off the detector. In my experience, even places like Langley, if you are a FT direct employee you don't have to take your shoes off.

    I'm the opposite, I have alden's, church's, and c&j's and when it comes to long day comfort and support, the alden's win out precisely due to the quality of the shank. Church's are fiberboard/thin steel strip (nothing like alden's robust offering) and c&j's are wood. After 12 hours, I can tell the difference big time. The Alden steel shank makes a difference, no question about that.
     

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