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Where does TM Lewin stand quality wise?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by CharlesAlexander, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. Oleg

    Oleg Well-Known Member

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    Been living in Lewins for 10 years or so and, value wise have found them pretty unbeatable. They're not the finest quality but at around 20 quid a pop, that's hardly surprising. I find the semi-fitted one fine: at forty, I don't want anything too tight. But even if you were to spend money on alterations, I suspect they'd still be good value.
     
  2. bananananana

    bananananana Well-Known Member

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    It's the same type of shit that you can get at Macys (i.e. Van Heusen, ALfani, CK). I put in an order once and they're closet filler at best. Lol at people who think otherwise jsut because it's a British company.
     
  3. Tano

    Tano Well-Known Member

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    Since we talking higher end prices, are the CT Sea Island at $115 a better buy then the H&K on sale at $80 US?

    Comparing TM and CT only makes sense if you specify the "labels"

    I know the CT range better best

    I have 5 CTs, 1 basic "white label", 3 Sea Island shirts and 1 Black label
    I have 4 TMs, 1 basic and 3 from a new range called John Francomb (supposedly a famous shirt designer)

    CT "white label" and TM basic feels basically the same quality-not great- basic office use -if pushed I would go for CT
    Sea Island and Black Label CTs are much better and well worth the extra 10 pounds
    The TM John Francomb seem like an attempt to go upscale (15 pounds up) - more fashionable & better quality- but not as good as the Sea Island and Black Label CTs

    So anyway CT vs TM is meaningless without the details
     
  4. CousinDonuts

    CousinDonuts Well-Known Member

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    I own 2 Lewins and 3 from CT. I'm 6', 155lbs with broad shoulders, so I tried the British shirts for a slimmer fit in generally. I personally thought the CT shirts were more fitted thru the middle. I thought their fabrics were very similar. Someone prior said that these are good for your filler shirts, and I agree. Good for the office, but don't wear for the 'wow' moments.
     
  5. ralphwho

    ralphwho Well-Known Member

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    I cant really say because I dont have experience of H&K. First becasue you can (or could last year-it is always changing) get some CT Sea Island in theit outlets aand even their Jermyn store during sales for 32.50 pounds- which was the price I bought them all.

    H&K have less sales occasions , no outlet presence and the shop in Jermyn Street is just not attractive - I know this should be irrelevant but I hate the look of the H&H, H&K shops and the patterns they put on display are good for my long deceased grandfather
     
  6. LEgoiste

    LEgoiste Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know if the prices on their website reflect the prices in their stores? My gf is going to London next week and I'm wondering if I should ask her to buy me some shirts/ties over there or I should just order online.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  7. DP92

    DP92 Well-Known Member

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    Myself, I like the TM Lewin shirts, I bought a couple of their casual range in the sale (£15 ea). I am a 43/44 chest and a large fitted perfect through the chest, shoulders and arms but huge around the waist...nothing a quick trip to the tailors cannot sort out however. For the money you can do alot worse; the quality is far superior to others in the same price range.

    My stats:

    6 ft 1
    ~195lb
    44 chest
    33 waist
    16.5 arms
    Wide shoulders

    @LEgoiste - I can;t speak for London but down in Portsmouth (Hour and half south) they are the same prices, sometimes cheaper, I got 2 shirts for £30 as it was the end of season sale.
     
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  8. Hacking jacket

    Hacking jacket Well-Known Member

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    I am fond of TM Lewin for routine business attire. For shirts I just have one high quality TM Lewis twill but like it alot. The fitting isn't for athletic builds but I had mine altered.
    I'd say notably better than CT (4 shirts) but not as good as the following UK BUSINESS shirts:
    1. Thomas Pink, particularly Imperial 170 (2 shirts)
    2. DuChamp or Simon Carter (2 shirts)
    The twill I have would sit within Ralph Lauren range quality (7+ shirts), which range from exquisite to ordinary.

    TP Imperial 170s are totally excellent business shirts costing around £120+ are near to bespoke price range

    So I'd say if its a quality TM Lewin shirt its certainly respectable.
    [I omitted dress shirts (Paul Smith, DuChamp, Kenzo) one if which caused pandemonium on SF: strange because it wasn't my worst.]
     
  9. DerekS

    DerekS Well-Known Member

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    i have 4 Lewin shirts i recently picked up...gotta say im really happy with the fit....i got the slim fits, and they are near perfect. IMHO, their collars are the best in the price range. Fabric is pretty mediocre and the buttons are plastic, but what can you expect from a $50 shirt?
     
  10. LEgoiste

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    How long does it usually take to receive orders shipped to the U.S.? I placed my order more than 2 weeks ago and still haven't received it.
     
  11. An Acute Style

    An Acute Style Well-Known Member

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    Usually, about three weeks. I have had some come as quick as two weeks and as long as four weeks.
     
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  12. bjornb17

    bjornb17 Well-Known Member

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    nvm
     
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  13. The Silverfox

    The Silverfox Well-Known Member

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    I have to say that in terms of comfort and simply joy of wearing, my favourite shirt ever is the most expensive one I've got which is from T&A. The first runner up is the cheapest one I've ever bought which is from TM Lewin.

    For those who want the ultimate in craftsmanship and artistry I'm not going to argue for or against TM Lewin, but my experience with this shirt is that it is amazingly comfortable, easy to iron and just a joy to wear. It's in a very soft thin herringbone with soft blue glen checks and a purple overcheck. It's easy to iron, it doesn't wrinkle that easily and neither cuffs nor collar is fused, so everything about it is nice and soft.

    Obviously the collars and the placket, as compared to the T&A shirt, are a bit less worked so it doesn't come out as perfectly smooth as the T&A does, but it's by no means rumpled, and considerably smoother than Pink shirts. The only flaw I've felt with it is that the sizing of the buttonholes is a bit too big for the buttons, so while this never poses a problem when wearing it normally, it will prevent me from say hanging a pair of sunglasses in the V of the open neck on a hot and sunny day, as the weight of the sunglasses combined with my movement will work the button open in a little while. If just wearing it normally, or especially if wearing it buttoned all the way up and with a tie, it's never been an issue.

    If I could find this same shirt again and had the option to buy it all over again, I definitely would. I still would at double and probably triple the price too. The main attraction though is the wonderful fabric, so this doesn't apply to any TM lewin shirt as they might have some bad ones, but they definitely have some good ones too.
     
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  14. Isbister

    Isbister Well-Known Member

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    Some here scorn Lewin for their offerings, but personally I feel they offer a good service at a very competitive price. For someone starting out, say an intern or office junior who needs a suit, they are just the job. Their shirts also come in an amazing range of sizes - various sleeve lengths for each collar size. Others have commented that they shrink, which can happen. If buying their shirts, it is wise to go up a half-inch in collar size. Their shirts come in too great a range of fabrics to generalise, but the seasoned shirt-buyer should easily be able to pick out those fabrics that offer the best quality and comfort. The cut of most of their shirts tends to be over-generous, which I quite like but I know many prefer their shirts to be slim-fitting.

    In summary, for everyday office wear I find their shirts offer far better value than any of the other Jermyn Street shops - the last lot I got there were five for £100, but usually you get four.
     
  15. LEgoiste

    LEgoiste Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have any TM Lewin coupon codes?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  16. Da GOAT

    Da GOAT Well-Known Member

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    In my experience the collars become rubbish after a few washes. slim fit is bulky and I'm not super skinny. I'd rather buy 1 eton shirt then 4 tm shirts.
     
  17. AlexE

    AlexE Well-Known Member

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    I have a couple of TM Lewin shirts. My impression is:
    • Fabrics are nothing special but OK. I am quite happy with their twills and pinpoint fabrics, which have a nice feel and do not wrinkle excessively. The herringbones are a bit too thin for my taste and wrinkle very easily. I only had two poplin shirts, of which one is quite nice whereas the other one was shrinking like crazy after the first laundry.
    • Buttons are plastic and exactly what one would expect at this price point
    • Finishing is nothing special, but I did not have any issues so far with dissolving seams and / or button holes. Pattern matching is OK.
    • Collars are unfused, which I prefer. Obviously ironing them requires more effort. I can also not second da goat's experience with them falling apart

    I think they compare well with shirts of CT, their main competitor. Indeed, I think that TM Lewin uses nicer fabrics, has better pattern matching and I definitely prefer the wider spread of their classic collar over the one of CT.

    Comparing TM Lewin to my significantly more expansive bespoke / mtm shirts would not be fair and when the occasion requires a perfect look I will certainly not pull a TM Lewin shirt out of my closet. However, I like them for days when I need to travel etc.
     
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  18. Gbg brouge

    Gbg brouge Well-Known Member

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    I have to chime in as I have several TML shirts.

    When I first came in contact with TML shirts, a few years ago, I found them to be of a very nice quality. Good collars and cuffs and the fabrics were very soft to the touch, especially the twill ones. I don't mind the plastic buttons and they respond well to washing (note that I always wash them using "quick wash").
    The newer ones that I have recieved this year have not been as good. The occasional unbalanced collar and stitching not really up to par. The fabrics also seem to be a little "harsher" and not as soft and supple as they used to be.

    However, getting 4 och 5 for £100, it's still a great shirt for it's price and if you don't feel like spending £250 on a single shirt from T&A, then TML is your place to go. Now I know that T&A RTW shirts are much cheaper than £250 but considering that they don't have TML's spledid choice of sleeve lengths, you will still end up with thier MTO range, hence the price.
    I will be shopping with TML and have great fun doing it!
     
  19. Colin Maillard

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    I think that TM Lewin shirts easily compare to most of upper-level shirts. If they did some mock "rebranding" for fun with some better brands I believe 99% of people wouldn't notice the difference (well, to be honest I think that for many other brands and products...).

    Also,I believe that Lewin does not sell shoes anymore, but I if you happen to find them on eBay or other second-hand stores, my advice is to buy them with confidence. I just purchased a pair of suede derbys and they look and feel great - perfect fit, nice and soft leather. They easily compare to Loake, and they also usually sell at really cheap prices (I paid 17 EUR for these).
     
  20. tommyuk81

    tommyuk81 New Member

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    The plackets on Lewin shirts are absolutely shocking. After the first wash, the placket becomes irredeemably rumpled. It's impossible to smooth out and herein lies the fundamental problem with Lewins shirts.

    If it wasn't for the placket, I would wear their shirts for work every day. They have a huge choice, good range of fits at very competitive prices. (No MOP buttons, but these can always be changed.)

    One thing that can't be changed though... is the placket :(
     

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