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When is the Next Brooks Brothers Sale?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, May 12, 2011.

  1. NickCarraway

    NickCarraway Well-Known Member

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    I'm 6', 170 lbs., so I'm not exactly Fat Albert. The problems with "modern" suits including most of BB's current offerings include:

    1. The jacket is too short. It does not cover the posterior.
    2. The buttoning point is too high. It should be near the natural waist. With a high buttoning point, the quarters flare out such that a triangle of shirt and the tip of the tie are visible above the trouser. This problem is exacerbated because....
    3. ... The trouser rise is too low. Suit trousers are not jeans. They should sit near the natural waist as well, enabling a nice long and crisp crease from waist to cuff. There should also be enough room in the crotch to prevent whisker wrinkles and castration.
    4. The combination of low rise and high buttoning point has led to modern ties being too long for practical use with a correctly cut suit.
    5. The jacket lapel is too narrow. Flusser: “The lapel of a well-styled suit should extend to just a fraction less than the halfway mark between the collar and shoulder line.” This generally means 3.25 to 3.5 inches. The Fitzgerald is 3 inches; the Milano is even slimmer.
    6. The trouser is too narrow at the hem. Again, suit trousers are not jeans. The hem should not get stuck under the tongue of the shoe. And the cuff should cover some of the shoe's lacing.

    HERE is how to cut a suit, as modeled by a guy who was 5'8" with a 35" chest and 29" waist. This suit ain't no Milano:

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  2. coolarrow

    coolarrow Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the responses. One more question re. collar points before I buy some of these shirts. Like I mentioned I really want long collar points. Are the collar points the same length between the new MiUSA, the being phased out MiUSA and the Malaysia OCBDs? RF is probably out b/c they have really slim collars. I googled some of the OCBD reviews, esp. the Ask Andy site, and none of them mentioned collar length.
     
  3. Jackboot

    Jackboot Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately I don't have any of the new MiUSA shirts to compare my "old" ones with, nor do I own any of the Malaysian ones. However, your question may possibly be obtained by telephoning customer service. I have never asked for measurements from BB myself, but I have asked J.Crew before and was surprised when they were able to give me precise measurements for any piece. The measurements were apparently available for the reps on their inventory system.

    Anyway, I'm guessing that collar point length is a common concern, and that BB customer service just might be able to answer this question for you directly. Worth a try?

    I agree that Red Fleece is no good for you if you want long collar points.

    Good luck :)
     
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  4. Spex

    Spex Well-Known Member

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    I doubt they reduced the point length between the older OCBDs and this new reboot. I can sneak a peak when I'm in there next time just to check.
     
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  5. techaview

    techaview Well-Known Member

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    I am so sorry if this has been asked before. Any idea how much discount is given to Edward Green during the corporate sale? Cheers!
     
  6. Churchill W

    Churchill W Well-Known Member

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    If you can get a discount, it's 30%. They are typically excluded.
     
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  7. techaview

    techaview Well-Known Member

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    Sad to hear that...
     
  8. RevisIsland

    RevisIsland Well-Known Member

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    I thought EG always is included during the corporate sale??Corporate sale happens 3-4 times a year. Stack with one of their gift card promotions (I think they were recently doing a $125 for a $150 gift card promo) and you could at 40+% off.
    I generally use a cashback website and get 5%+ more back.
     
  9. clee1982

    clee1982 Well-Known Member

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    EG is typically NOT included (so is Alden), though some SA might get around that... (not the ones I know unfortunatelly)
     
  10. Jmm722

    Jmm722 Well-Known Member

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    I see there's some Brooks Brothers Luxury suits on sale on the website. Any idea who the maker is or the quality. It appears to be different than Golden Fleece and made in Italy. Was thinking about buying one
     
  11. sjmin209

    sjmin209 Well-Known Member

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    I believe they're Lardini.
     
  12. Jmm722

    Jmm722 Well-Known Member

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    even the $2400 ones? I know the 1818 is lardini
     
  13. TtownMD

    TtownMD Well-Known Member

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    If you can post a link it would get you better answer. Are you talking about black fleece? If so quality is top notch.
     
  14. Jmm722

    Jmm722 Well-Known Member

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    It's gone now. It wasn't black fleece either. Just called Luxury. 3 button silk, cashmere, wool blend and made in italy. Looked really good. Should've just bought it and returned if necessary
     
  15. sjmin209

    sjmin209 Well-Known Member

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    If it was labeled "Luxury" in the description (like this suit), then in all likelihood it was Lardini. If it was Golden Fleece, I'm not sure.
     
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    TtownMD Well-Known Member

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    I have some luxury dress shirt & sport coat from bb. Meaning it's from there luxury time capsule & I would highly recommend it for that price. But all there luxury things are well worth it but keep in mind it's slim fit & I would say fit similar to Milano cut.
     
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  18. Alpha11

    Alpha11 Well-Known Member

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    FYI: I was told by my SA that the reason why BB does not often include Edward Green in their sales is due to a price agreement they have with EG. Additionally, if you have a MTO suit made it is Not made in Italy it is however, made in the US at their Southwick plant.
     
  19. Alpha11

    Alpha11 Well-Known Member

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    From your post is would seem that you will be unhappy with most OTR suit out there as the model of the suit you are referencing to is well over 50 yrs old. Sorry to tell you but not too many suit manufacturers are going to have that model available as it would most likely sit on the rack for many months or even years and end up being discount at a lost.

    Your best bet would be MTO or bespoke anything less than that and you will continue to be met with disappointment. Good luck.
     
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  20. Mr Engineer

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    Decided to visit their site since its been a while. I am starting to see a decline in terms on style with Brooks Brothers clothing
     

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