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What's the stereotype of a New Jersey Girl?

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Soph, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    SF revolves around men's clothes, with a particular emphasis on tailored clothing worn for business. NYC and the east coast more broadly are home to industries and companies that require business dress; California mostly is not. So it should not be surprising that Style Forum's membership tips eastward.
     
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    Oh I agree with you about that. NYC is a city unlike any other. I don't find it particularly likeable, but it is impressive. However, this board often feels like that famous map of NYC from the New Yorker, when the reality of this country is something very, very different.
    Of course, a map of quality clothing in the US would sort of resemble that New Yorker map, wouldn't you say???
     
  3. itsstillmatt

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    SF revolves around men's clothes, with a particular emphasis on tailored clothing worn for business. NYC and the east coast more broadly are home to industries and companies that require business dress; California mostly is not. So it should not be surprising that Style Forum's membership tips eastward.

    Of course, a map of quality clothing in the US would sort of resemble that New Yorker map, wouldn't you say???

    It also revolves around crazy leftist politics and people who do not wash their jeans for several months at a time. In these categories, California pwns all others.
     
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    It also revolves around crazy leftist politics...
    I'm not seeing that. I do see a few limp-left posts from the likes of Conne, and some guerrilla-style posts from Arethusa, but there's little true American liberalism. EDIT: Maybe then, in that regard, it does resemble (Northern) CA. To me, apart from LA, SoCal appears to lean fairly John Birch-right, at least much of Orange County and San Diego... We do seem to get a fair number of "the poor are the scum of the earth" right-wing posts, but I'll drop the CE now.
     
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    I am British, from London and I don't have preference to a US coast, but California's cities look bland. Find me this on the West Coast: [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I agree, same with much of Southern CT, both owe much of their wealth to the city.

    Me either I've been a couple times bot were quite enjoyable. I think the media has informed most peoples opinion on Jersey; all the jokes about those trash-luxe types, the ugliness and the Sopranos. The only thing I found accurate was that Jersey is rather unattractive.
    No argument there. I will concede that much of New Jersey is aesthetically unattractive.
    No, no, no, no, and no. But the Cali pinko commie has already brought up the pine barrens and the water gap and sandy hook and high point...OK, not by name, but he mentioned that NJ has some spectacular beauty. Very little of it falls within spitting distance of NYC. NJ owes its wealth to some of the friendliest business tax laws in the country, with AT&T, Merck, and others all placing international headquarters there. Many many jobs have stayed in Jersey after employers realized that no one really likes that commute into the city.




    FWIW, I spent a month in Newark and a few weekends in some bumfuck town with cows and cornfields in the western part of Jersey. I have been there, you silly twat.
    Hey man, let me know next time you're coming by.

    I went to school with a lot of Jerseyites--probably not as many as OE, but a lot. And there were a lot of outsiders mixed in, of course. Every single one of us defended Jersey to the hilt: "if you don't like it, go to that #1 USN&WR school in your state, asshat."

    Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous. Was it here on StyleForum where I said I missed that Cali has everything, from mountains to beaches to forests to deserts, all within a few hours drive? And someone said "well New York has all that, too".

    If you think New York (state) has mountains, you have never seen a mountain, I'm sorry.

    May well have been me, and I stand by it. If I've never seen a mountain, then you've never tried to hike Mt Marcy. Tougher hike than Whitney, and it's not really close. Whitney is a long walk; Marcy is a short walk without switchbacks.

    Tom
     
  7. itsstillmatt

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    I am British, from London and I don't have preference to a US coast, but California's cities look bland. Find me this on the West Coast:

    California's cities are quite bland and architecturally they are pathetic. London is a great city, and makes NY look like San Jose in my mind.

    I don't imagine that many people with eyes would argue that the California coast from Muir Woods to Santa Barbara was not the most naturally beautiful part of the US. In fact, it is probably the only US area that compares at all (at at parts very favorably) with the most naturally beautiful parts of Europe.
     
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    I don't imagine that many people with eyes would argue that the California coast from Muir Woods to Santa Barbara was not the most naturally beautiful part of the US. In fact, it is probably the only US area that compares at all (at at parts very favorably) with the most naturally beautiful parts of Europe.
    Parts of Colorado blow me away... I'd say there are plenty of beautiful areas in the US, even outside of CA. However, many of them aren't necessarily in proximity to a city of SF's caliber.
     
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    California's cities are quite bland and architecturally they are pathetic.

    This is unfair. There is a lot great architecture in CA. In many places, to be sure, it has been overwhelmed by boxy nothingness, but much of it is still there.
     
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    Parts of Colorado blow me away... I'd say there are plenty of beautiful areas in the US, even outside of CA. However, many of them aren't necessarily in proximity to a city of SF's caliber.
    Colorado is quite beautiful, and the mountains are more beautiful than those in California. However, it is not the proximity to SF that makes the natural beauty of California different, it is the proximity of the various different types of beauty. In a relatively contained area you have Lake Tahoe, the Sierras, the Sequoias, the Carmel Coast, The SF Bay etc. I can't think of anywhere else in the US that has so much, so great, so close.
     
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    it is the proximity of the various different types of beauty. In a relatively contained area you have Lake Tahoe, the Sierras, the Sequoias, the Carmel Coast, The SF Bay etc. I can't think of anywhere else in the US that has so much, so great, so close.

    As I've often thought the same thing, I can't argue with that. Are there places in Europe that can match that? Are any Frenchmen on line whom we can bait?
     
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    London is a great city, and makes NY look like San Jose in my mind.
    I deeply and wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. Having lived years in both cities, I cannot imagine how anyone (not blind) could think that London is a more attractive city than NYC. Are you generally contained to Mayfair and Holland Park when you go to London Matt?
     
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    As I've often thought the same thing, I can't argue with that. Are there places in Europe that can match that? Are any Frenchmen on line whom we can bait?

    I remember driving down the coast of CA and through a lot of the western beauty for 5 weeks years ago and loved it. I think in terms of coastal beauty, some parts of the French Riviera are a good match (Esterel, Eze, Menton...), the Etretat cliffs and the Cinqueterre area in Italy are not half bad. For the rest (deserts and natural parks), there is no real match in EUrope that I'm aware of. There are other types of natural beauties there
     
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    I cannot imagine how anyone (not blind) could think that London is a more attractive city than NYC.

    I have always thought so, but:

    Add Knightsbridge, Marleybone, Belgravia, Kensington, Chelsea and the answer would be ... yes.
     
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    Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous. Was it here on StyleForum where I said I missed that Cali has everything, from mountains to beaches to forests to deserts, all within a few hours drive? And someone said "well New York has all that, too".

    If you think New York (state) has mountains, you have never seen a mountain, I'm sorry.


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    It also revolves around crazy leftist politics and people who do not wash their jeans for several months at a time. In these categories, California pwns all others.

    Not sure how the jeans part fits in with the whole "California smells better" claim, but I don't live there. [​IMG]


    Northeast States in General:

    Top Tier:

    NY, CT, MA


    Second Tier:

    RI, NJ (Just bc of the trashiness ; - as far as jobs and economy go its top)


    Third Tier:

    NH, VA, ME (because they are in the middle of nowhere). Some would put these ahead of Dirty Jerz.


    Written like a true New Yorker. [​IMG]


    All I'm saying is, most of the people I know at school from Jersey - which is a lot, considering I go to Brandeis - seem vaguely ashamed of the fact. That's there fault, not mine. The only people I've ever seen display Jersey pride are the ones who fit the "Gotti" stereotype to a T. Seems like it's you who has a major complex.

    Not my experience with folks I know from New Jersey at all (none of whom fit what you term the "Gotti" stereotype). I've seen nothing but incredible state pride (along with a fanatical, almost Pope-like devotion to Bruce Springsteen).
     
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    Awww, you're so cute when you're angry, you little Jersey internet tough guy. I'm quaking in my shoes, I really am...


    I'll drop you a line next time I'm in "Jerz"....

    Cheers!


    Make sure you do that, so that you can see how little and silly I actually am. If I looked like this, I wouldn't go around calling guys twice my size a twat:

    [​IMG]
     
  18. vaclava krishna

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    What of,some forum unity east, west, and Canadian ?

    Hammer, don't hurt, him.
     
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    Some parts of London have great architecture, of what has been mentioned, Chelsea actually has quite poor architecture, as does most of Knightsbridge, Marylebone and Mayfair.
    Belgravia is very nice, most of Holland Park is also, but it's only just in 'real' London.
    Kensington is very so so in my opinion.
    If I were to rank London's areas in terms of architectural quality, it would be as follows:
    1. Belgravia
    2. Regent's Park
    3. Little Venice / Maida Vale
    4. St. John's Wood
    5. The City
    6. Holland Park
    7. The south east of Marylebone
    8. Canary Wharf
    9. Hampstead
    10. South Kensington
    11. (Architecturally) generic areas (Bayswater, Mayfair, Paddington, Notting Hill, Belsize Park, Most of Kensington, Earl's Court, Fulham, Ealing etc.)

    To say Chelsea or has nice architecture confuses me. Sure it is a nice area, but architecture? It is simply a mix of very bad 60s architecture and London's generic architectural style.
     
  20. Manton

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    I like London's generic architectural style. I like NY's, too, but there is less of it still around. East of Lex there is nothing but glass boxes from 96th to the harbor. Almost.
     

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