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What is the problem with centre vents?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by True North, Aug 27, 2008.

  1. True North

    True North Active Member

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    I have seen some implied dislike for centre vents on SF. Besides the supposed American-ness of them, what is the issue aesthetically? I personally like them because I feel that face-on, a lot of side vents suits I try on have more hip flare than I would like, which distracts from a sleek silhouette (not that I am adverse to side vents).
     
  2. greekonomist

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    I have seen some implied dislike for centre vents on SF. Besides the supposed American-ness of them, what is the issue aesthetically? I personally like them because I feel that face-on, a lot of side vents suits I try on have more hip flare than I would like, which distracts from a sleek silhouette (not that I am adverse to side vents).

    If the side vents are flaring, then the suit does not fit properly. Center vents open up to reveal your rear, which most people find inelegant, distracting and unflattering.
     
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    If the side vents are flaring, then the suit does not fit properly. Center vents open up to reveal your rear, which most people find inelegant, distracting and unflattering.

    Si. I think it happens more so if you get suppression due to your drop on a RTW. I don't know how it would look MTM, but I can't do single vent.
     
  5. acidboy

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    I don't mind the single vent. In fact I kinda like like the minimalist concept of it on a dark and slim jacket.
     
  6. Skyler

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    The aesthetic problem w/ a center vent is that when it opens due to the natural/quotidian movements of a man (i.e., man puts hands in pockets, man crosses arms, man genuflects before an altar, etc., etc.) the split in the rear center vent reveals a man's most inelegant feature: his ASS.

    Not good.

    Who, after all, wants to look at your ass.

    The same aesthetic problem, of course, does not apply to the fairer sex because a lady's bottom is - aesthetically speaking - well, an attractive asset. A good thing.

    Not so, thankfully, w/ men. This is why most gentlemen of taste and discrimination (i.e., good sense) prefer either the double or ventless jacket, since is tends to flatter a man's more attractive assets (shoulders, waist) while de-emphasizing his least attractive qualities, i.e., his ASS.

    Think about... But not too much.
     
  7. TRINI

    TRINI Well-Known Member

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    What if you have a nice ass though?
     
  8. Skyler

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    What if you have a nice ass though?

    Then you've thought about it - and your ass - too much. Much too much.
     
  9. stilmacher

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    I have never seen a good looking single vented suit. Because I prefer slimmer fits two vents always contribute to the sillouhette of the garment, single vents don't. I was surprised to see Bernard Arnault wearing one but it may be a French thing.
     
  10. epa

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    During the last years I have had all my suits and woolen sport coats made with side vents. But, for some reason, I have had some linen jackets made with centre vents. I do not really know why, I just felt like it and my tailor had nothing to object.
     
  11. Golf_Nerd

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    ... the aesthetic problem w/ a center vent is that when it opens due to the natural/quotidian movements of a man (i.e., man puts hands in pockets, man crosses arms, man genuflects before an altar, etc., etc.) the split in the rear center vent reveals a man's most inelegant feature: his ASS.

    Not good.

    Who, after all, wants to look at your ass.

    The same aesthetic problem, of course, does not apply to the fairer sex because a lady's bottom is - aesthetically speaking - well, an attractive asset. A good thing.



    +1 [​IMG]
     
  12. Grayland

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    The only problem I have with single vented jackets is that I have a bit of a sprinter's ass (and it's spectacular!) and sometimes the center vents don't close properly even when I don't have my hands in my pockets. Most center vents don't have this problem (at least for me), but I have to be very careful of buying center vented jackets off this B&S.

    The whole idea of being afraid of your ass showing is a bit over the top, don't you think? After all, I would guess most of us wear pants, so our asses really don't show. In addition, you really shouldn't be having your hands in your pockets anyway except to retrieve something. Even if you do put your hands in your pockets and your center vent flares, do you honestly think people are going to think badly of you? More than likely, you're the best dressed guy in the office. Also, if you're in decent shape, I can promise you that women do not mind seeing a liitle of your backside every now and then.
     
  13. Jumbie

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    The whole idea of being afraid of your ass showing is a bit over the top, don't you think? After all, I would guess most of us wear pants, so our asses really don't show. In addition, you really shouldn't be having your hands in your pockets anyway except to retrieve something. Even if you do put your hands in your pockets and your center vent flares, do you honestly think people are going to think badly of you? More than likely, you're the best dressed guy in the office. Also, if you're in decent shape, I can promise you that women do not mind seeing a liitle of your backside every now and then.

    Good post. I agree completely.
     
  14. Harry Lean

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    Double vents always feel more free and l believe they are superior to single vents. Single vents can be more restrictive and it's harder to get to the back pocket. l would imagine the double drape over the back of the body better too and avoids the rear/bottom/cheeks sticking out too much. l'm no expert, but that is my experience.
     
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    The whole idea of being afraid of your ass showing is a bit over the top, don't you think?
    + 1

    In addition, you really shouldn't be having your hands in your pockets anyway except to retrieve something.
    I do not think that there should be anything to retrieve in the pockets of your suit pants. A gentleman is not supposed to carry around a lot of things, and for the few things he may have to carry around, the inside pockets of the jacket will suffice. Thus, no reason to put your hands in your pant pockets ever. If it is cold, then you put on your overcoat which will surely have some pockets for your hands.
    Pocket tennis is not an appropriate occupation for a gentleman. Also, if you are observed while playing pocket tennis, the observer is not likely to pay a lot of attention to your vents.
     
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    additionally, side vents allow for more adjustments.
    I have had center vented suit jackets taken in for waist suppression and also to add more shape to the back, and the center vent always ends up looking horrible and un-even.
     
  17. eHaberdasher

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    I do not think that there should be anything to retrieve in the pockets of your suit pants. A gentleman is not supposed to carry around a lot of things, and for the few things he may have to carry around, the inside pockets of the jacket will suffice. Thus, no reason to put your hands in your pant pockets ever. If it is cold, then you put on your overcoat which will surely have some pockets for your hands.
    Pocket tennis is not an appropriate occupation for a gentleman. Also, if you are observed while playing pocket tennis, the observer is not likely to pay a lot of attention to your vents.


    In general I do agree - a gentleman, when wearing a suit (or sport coat and dress trousers), should be carrying his small items inside his jacket pockets with the only exception being perhaps some loose change.

    That being said I am extremely partial towards side vents. Not only do they allow freedom of movement (and indeed I am guilty of just putting my hands in my pockets for no particular reason), but the visual lines are more appealing to me and there is a more elegant flair to them.
     
  18. dopey

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    I recently had a suit made with center vents and I have one on a tweed sportcoat. Most of the issues people raise with them are fit related. It is true, though, that a single vent is harder to get to fit well in RTW unless you have a pretty straight sack cut and you don't have a really prominent butt. With RTW, I think side vents are always a much better choice. With bespoke or good MTM, you ought to be able to get a single vent to hang properly.
     

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