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What Do You Deem as Worthy of Paying Full Price For?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by rudals1281, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Well-Known Member

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    I would gladly pay retail for good bespoke. Everything else, if I know it will go on sale at some point, I wait. If not, I buy at retail.

    Buy what you like, too much money is wasted on compromise...
     
  2. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    I take it item by item. There are some things that I see and don't mind paying full price for (either because I really like them or because the full price is reasonably low). I don't think that there's any one category of items that I'm more often than not willing to pay full price for. Not many otr/rtw items are worth full retail, IMO. There's almost always a promotional price around the corner or someone, who's just as reputable, selling the item for less.
     
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  3. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Well-Known Member

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    In general, I do not like to pay full retail for anything RTW. If I really like something and also need it for my wardrobe quickly and do not have time for MTM, I'll make an exception. For me, the Brooks Brothers Regent suit is a perfect example. It fits me extremely well off the rack and I like the suits, but there's no way I'm paying $1,000 for an 1818 line suit when I could have Hemrajani make me something nicer for the same price or less. On sale for $600; that's another story.

    I agree with much of what BourbonBasted said about getting a deal. It's great when you can find items on sale, but I don't believe in buying something just because it's on sale. I've made that mistake before in my life and I have regretted it. I have to like the item and see myself wearing it, no matter how good of a deal it is. This lets me pick up something I like and consider "good enough" for the right price, e.g. Brooks Brothers Regent stuff from the 1818 line, while avoiding spending too much time trying to save.

    I will also pay full retail for shoes in most cases because I think that $350 is worth it for a pair or Allen Edmonds and that $450-$500 with the British Pound where it is now is a perfectly fair price for C&J Benchgrade. I have managed to get a decent amount of Ferragamo shoes on discount but generally would probably not pay full retail for them. I like the styling but think they have a decent sized designer brand premium.
     
  4. rudals1281

    rudals1281 Well-Known Member

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    I think I am "retarded" because when I see something on sale I view it as..."unwanted" and don't even consider buying it.
     
  5. archibaldleach

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    That makes no sense to me. If something is on sale, it means there is an excess of inventory usually. Some things are in fact unwanted and discounted to try to con someone into buying them, but there are plenty of retailers who are trying to make room for a new seasonal lineup that are willing to part with things for a discount or that may have produced an excessive amount of a product that does in fact sell pretty well.
     
  6. bertie

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    Sales are just a tool for retailers to make space for more stuff to try and hook people on. I have noticed that retailers will often add merchandise at sale time that they do not carry the rest of the year. This is flat out cynical on their part but they understand the psychology well.

    If you have been eyeing an item with intention to purchase it and it goes on sale - you would be crazy not to buy it. If you think that something being on sale makes it more attractive you are likely deluding yourself.
     
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  8. rudals1281

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    Couple months ago, I and my friends gathered up all our unwanted stuff (anything) and had a yard sale to raise money for charity. We started in the morning and there was a huge crowd and we were selling left and right. This went on for couple of hours. By noon we were stuffing our faces with hotdogs and chips cus we no longer had customers. After about an hour after that we decided to mark everything down just so we don't have to take back our stuff home. All that was left was stuff people didn't want.

    This is where I am coming from when I say items on sale are unwanted stuff. If something was in high demand why the heck wud a store mark it down?!!!!!!
     
  9. Claghorn

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    Company A makes 100 of Suit B. Suit B is worth 1000 dollars to 50 customers. 50 customers buy Suit B. For 50 other customers, 1000 was too much for Suit B. 50 customers already bought their suits, the remaining suits aren't moving any more, so now the suits are discounted to 800 dollars and sold to an additional 30 people. The last 20 suits aren't moving because everyone who felt the suits were worth 1000 and 800 dollars already purchased theirs. So the suits are discounted again until they are all gone.

    If the suits cost 500 dollars to make, it doesn't make sense to only make enough to sell to the 50 people willing to pay 1000 dollars for it when there are an additional 30 willing to wait and pay 800 dollars for it on sale.

    As far as being in demand: your preferences aren't always going to reflect what is most popular, so what is in demand won't concern you. Yeah, if your preferences do align with demand, then you'll be less likely to find what you want on sale, but even then the manufacturer may have overestimated the demand...in which case the items might go on sale because they need to be moved.
     
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  10. archibaldleach

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    The difference is that you were getting rid of things that were not useful to you and that you did not want. You have a yard sale to get rid of unwanted stuff. A store is always in the business of selling things, so it's a bit different. A store can have many reasons for having a sale, including trying to clear shelf space to house next season's items. Different items also sell in different quantities through the years, so it is entirely possible that they overproduced some items and the sale is supply driven and not demand driven. Stores also often have sales to drive in additional foot traffic. If you really don't like buying things on sale, you can always wait for the sale to end and buy the same item at full price, but this seems kind of absurd.


    +100.
     
  11. Master Squirrel

    Master Squirrel Well-Known Member

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    I pay full price for things I really like and I know will be sold out by the time a sales rolls around.
     
  12. HughJ

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    Staples. You'll never miss a few dollars per wear, considering their useful lifespan.
     
  13. NORE

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    I've paid full price for shoes, that's about it.
     
  14. Superfluous

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    I wish I had learned this earlier: "If you didn't love it at retail price, then it's not a deal at a discounted price." Or something like that.
     
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  15. VinnyMac

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    +1 to that. I think that most people think that without being able to verbalize it the way that you did. When I don't love something at msrp but buy it at a discounted price, it's not because I think that it's a deal; it's because I think that the discounted price should have been the retail price to begin with, and I can see the value in it at the discounted price.
     
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  16. rudals1281

    rudals1281 Well-Known Member

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    +1 exactly!
     
  17. jrd617

    jrd617 Well-Known Member

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    I've paid retail for a couple pairs of Aldens. Thinking about picking up a pair of CJs at retail now that all the deal sites are gone
     
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  19. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    I haggle on every opportunity I got.
     
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  20. Superfluous

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    I think there's a fine line. I'd say don't get worked up about it and don't haggle over something negligible. Sometimes you also know what you're willing to pay for something.

    So you're telling me that when you buy a watch, for example, you don't ask if they take anything off the price? Sometimes a simple question will take 10-15% off the retail price just to start. Other times, like with Cartier, they'll say there's no discounting allowed at all.
     
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