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What car should I get (Audi, BMW, MB, Lexus, Infiniti)?

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by the_drizzle, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. the_drizzle

    the_drizzle Well-Known Member

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    I've been trying to buy a new car for a while but I had no luck getting a Hyundai Genesis Coupe in the color/package I wanted for the past ~2 months. Apparently there's some sort of supply issue; anyways...

    Now I'm look at:

    • Audi A4
    • Lexus IS 250
    • Lexus ES 350
    • BMW 328i
    • MB C-Class Sedan C350
    • Infiniti G37 Sedan

    I'm shooting these options: leather seats, navigation, push to start, and sunroof; and a price at around 40k (43k is probably the upper limit).

    Does anyone have any suggestions and experiences to help me decide?

    Thanks.
     
  2. akatsuki

    akatsuki Well-Known Member

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    Since you are asking random people on the internet - you should get an ES350
     
  3. MPAVictoria

    MPAVictoria Active Member

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    Take a look at the new Cadillac ATS. Seems like a nice care and the prices are reasonable. If that doesn't float your boat you might want to consider the various ages of the cars you have listed. The lexus and the Infiniti are both old models and the MB isn't much newer. The BMW is the most recent I believe. The es350 really does not fit on that list at all. The rest are all sport sedans and the ES is not.

    That said the best thing you can do is test drive all of them.
     
  4. gort

    gort Well-Known Member

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    The A4 has got to be due for a re-up soon, no?
     
  5. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Well-Known Member

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    The 2013 model has been revised, slightly:

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  6. the_drizzle

    the_drizzle Well-Known Member

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    Ended up going with an Infiniti G37x Sedan.

    A4 came in a close second but the repair/maintenance costs were significantly higher, not to mention a much weaker engine.
     
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    impolyt_one Well-Known Member

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    I would've gotten a 328i sedan, but I don't think you really cared that much about your car purchase.
     
  8. Joffrey

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    Hmm, so infinitis are only purchased by people who don't really care about what they're spending their money on?
     
  9. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Well-Known Member

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    Well, he chose to buy a car that was like 7 years through it's design cycle, versus one that just came out - if you pay attention to how car values work and know anything about cars, a G37 isn't exactly a good buy right now.
     
  10. Joffrey

    Joffrey Well-Known Member

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    I know how automotive product cycles work just didn't take the time to research those of BMW and inifiniti before posting. Your post also didn't reflect that. Isn't buying a model late into its cycle technically better as they may've ironed out any issues?
     
  11. otc

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    Probably depends how long you want to keep it.

    If it is going to be 3 years because you want to look "cool" then something early in the cycle is good because A: You look cool and B: when you sell it, it still looks like the new models sitting on the lot.

    If it is 10 years, then late into the model cycle is probably good since having the issues ironed out is nice and by the time you are selling a 10 year old used car, the buyers are less concerned with it being the newest body style.
     
  12. the_drizzle

    the_drizzle Well-Known Member

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    Keeping it for the long term and I didn't want to wait for the next model (gave my old car to someone who needed it ASAP). Other similarly priced vehicles (e.g. Lexus and Acura) were less aesthetically pleasing and European cars tended to have significantly higher maintenance costs. I liked the exterior of the G37 the most, its maintenance costs and reliability ratings were great, and its interior was still very nice (although I thought Audi had the best interior in this price range).

    Also, I'd like to personally thank everyone who posted smart ass comments. Your posts are amusing and I encourage everyone to keep it up.
     
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  13. stevent

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    Buy 3 years old lease returns for $15k less
     
  14. rocks

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    The Nissan and the BMW are the worst in terms of aesthetics and the Lexus has better fit and finish than all the others in this group. BMW used to be the king in driving dynamics in this segment but those days are long gone, BMW today save for the M cars are what Lexus used to be, an appliance bought to ferry commuters from point A to point B.
     
  15. VirtruviusR

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    I'm going to call bullshit on that last one. BMW's aren't appliances, not yet (they're certainly headed that direction). While I've not had the fortune of driving the current 2013/2012 MY 328i, (only the 335) I've owned the outgoing 328xi for the past three years (MY 2011). I drove the shit out of that car every day till I headed of to NYC and I've driven all of the competitors on your list a good amount (well except the lexus's, because I simply don't know anyone buying them anymore, they've gone of the beige-end). The 328xi of yesteryear killed them all as far as driving dynamics went. Unfortunately, the current models are drive by wire and more neutered, but the 3series (e90) had increibly precise, accurate steering that gave a good amount of raw road feedback to the driver. It was tight, smooth and honestly I couldn't ask for a better steering feel in a compact exec sedan. The old 3 liter naturally aspirated inline-6 was an absolute dream, bringing that beauty up to the 7.5k redline was an experience in aural orgasm, and while the infinity has a similarly smooth engine, it just doesn't compare to a a tried and true bavarian straight six. There's an indescribable smoothness and nuanced character to those engines, one of the last euro engines in the entry level segment that had true soul. There's a reason people love BMW's I-6 and they've been churning them out to insane praise for literal decades. In addition, I challenge you to find and extensively drive a car in this pricerange that is a more balanced and enjoyable driver than the 3'er. The steering feedback is on another level with regards to the baseline A4, I seriously hate the driving feel of those cars. Feels like you're driving a tarted up VW, the steering is loose and doesn't come close to conveying the road-feel of the bimmer, the 2.0L TFSI engine is more rough and exceptionally boring even compared to the turbo'd N55 or N54 in the 335/330i of various years (I cannot speak to the turbo'd 4banger in the current 3), let alone the naturally aspired, rev happy N52 of the 328i of the e90 3series.

    I think a great choice to look into would be the outgoing 335xi/i or a 328xi/i as they are giving crazy good deals on them, and the platform is still very much modern and competitive and you actually get great bang for buck. Its also a great looking car with the m-trim/aero-trim, post facelift. The deals on it will help kill that "off the lot" depreciation that Euro cars experience and there is already an extensively established database of support and a thriving aftermarket should you decide to mess around with the car or do your own upkeep and maintenance. Whatever you do skip things like adaptive steering this, variable control that. It neuters the cars feel for the minimal convenience (family cars have included the last gen 7, and two of the e60 5's, some of them had the steering aid and driver comfort features,a nd while they're nice, they seriously do change the sporty character of the car - this goes for non bimmers as well in my experience - many of my friends own the infinities and audis, so I've spent some quality time driving and being driven in them all).

    Another thing I'd point out, in regards to BMW (simply since I have the most experience with them, having grown up with a stable of Bavarians, after having Mercs, Volvos, Lexus's and Audis over the years) is that they really are at their best with the 3 series. The curent 5 is a boat, the 7 is a barge. The 3 is still what it always has been, a fun, practical car. In aero trim, it looks damn good too, with a very rakish agressive look. Yes it is more bloated these days, and yes it has far to many driver aids, but as far as a perfectly tuned suspension and steering in between sporty harshness and cruising comfort, I'd still say BMW can't be beat in this segment. A 6spd 3series or M3 is still one of the most fun, best driving mainstream cars out there FWIW, in my humble opinion anyway.

    /flamesuit on
     
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    Can you elaborate? A car late in its design cycle has usually gotten all the kinks worked out. This is a big plus.
     
  17. rocks

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    Brosef, I drive an e46 3 series( to be retired in 4 months) and have been since 2003. The new caddy ATS is as good as this new 3er and I guarantee you the next gen IS coming out next year will run circles around this 3er just as the new GS is a better drivers car than the F10. Lexus has finally decided to build cars with excitement and are killing BMW at what was once their niche. The 3rd gen IS will be the new drivers car of this group, mark my words. 3 series today again save for the new M is really for poseurs, if its the ultimate drivers car you seek then this 3er should not be a contender. Almost everybody has catch up these days. Good for Lexus because that was the only ingredient missing from their line-up, now you get the legendary reliability with superior driving dynamics, a win win on all accounts.
     
  18. GreenFrog

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    The idea of a Lexus IS driving/handling better than a 3 series is baffling to the 9th degree.

    What makes you say that the newest IS will trump the 3 series?
     
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  19. impolyt_one

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    cars take a bigger hit on the used market if they're not a current generation model. I don't know the proportion, it probably varies, but you see values take a hit the minute a new version comes out or even slightly before as current owners will try to offload them for the new model. Also, why purposely drive a car that isn't as new as possible if you're spending that much money? Buying a 2011 3-series would be cheaper than a 2012 for sure, but not enough to warrant buying the outdated model IMO....
     
  20. the_drizzle

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    If one doesn't plan to sell the car for a long period of time, then isn't that really a moot point?
     

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