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What are the best friends of your country?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by ernest, Feb 21, 2005.

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  1. Steve B.

    Steve B. Well-Known Member

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    Ernest, A bit Chauvin-istic, perhaps? [​IMG]
     
  2. Roy

    Roy Well-Known Member

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    Originally Posted by drizzt3117,Feb. 26 2005,00:49
    India isn't a world power yet, although it has the potential to be in the future. Â Their issue is that they don't have a good resource base, and that will be an ongoing issue. Â China is already a major player economically, just look at how the EU is suffering because of China's ability to undersell them due to their undervalued currency (tied to the dollar) Â They are politically important, and have emerged as at least a regional superpower. Â Although they have laid low recently militarily since their duel with India in the 60s, in this new century, rest assured, there will be issues in Asia going forward.
    It is obvious that a country of 1.2 billions of people who just have started to consume is an important world market... How can 62 millions play against 1.2 billions in term of economy? Being a world power is not only economy or army. How can you explain that you all are talking so much about French and not 25 time more about Chinese ? Why is Paris the most visited city in the WORLD? And France the second most visited country in the WORLD? French have a culture and a civilisation that US have not (and it is normal because a 200 years old "country" like US can not have the same cultural background as a 1 200 year old Nation like France). They have an influence on western and african worlds that Chinese have not. France is at the origin of many ideas and many pattents that people use nowadays. If you take in account the small number of people in France (62M) Â against China and the size of the country (25 less than US), Â the ability of French to influence the world is one of the highest in the world... Look at : - what you like the most to eat (cheese, bread, wine, best restaurants and more tastefull dishes...) - what your wife would like tyo wear and what yourself may wear (Dior/YSL/Chanel/Lanvin/Charvet/ Cartier/Weston...) - what you believe in (bill of human rights and freedom) - how you think (logic and philosophy) - what book you like to read (French writters are rather famous I guess) - which cities you like the most and where you would like to live France is everywhere...... Where are China & US?
    Ernest, did you know that Descartes studied and lived in the Netherlands? I think you have never been to the USA because there are some very cultured people in the USA. Just as there are some 'redneck type' people as you call them in France... The Chinese have the power to crush France (and Europe) at their will. A lot of people will favor Italian or Chinese cuisine above the French. Not to mention the Italian and British fashion and tailoring houses. The Arabs founded the modern concept of Mathematics and what about that Shakespeare or an Hemingway? Paris is a city that I absolutely love, to visit. I would never want to live there. Actually Holland was a republic (1587, Republic of the seven united Provinces) before France ever was. Greek philosophy was also kind of popular I belove (Aristotle, Plato) and even the Chinese had this philosopher kind of guy (heard of Confucius?). France is not superior to any other country in the world. Every country has a history of which they are proud (usually). But don't make the mistake to think that other countries have achieved nothing.
     
  3. drizzt3117

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    Because there isn't a Chinese person here trying to convince us that his country is a world power... although I don't think it would be that difficult to do.

    Paris is easy to visit for Europeans, and there likely aren't records about domestic visitors to Chinese cities. I would guess that Shanghai and Beijing are more frequently visited than Paris when you take into account domestic visitors, but these records aren't available.

    China has been around for three thousand years, so I think this comparison isn't one you want to make. The US dominates the world stage right now, more so than ANY COUNTRY HAS EVER DONE, even the Roman empire. As powerful as the Roman empire was during its heyday, they had no influence on Asia, while the US influences the entire world.

    This is debatable, I would wager that more economies are more dependent on Chinese goods than French ones. If you're talking about culture, Chinese philosophy has been part of many doctrines since before Christ (Confucius, Sun Tzu)

    Name some that aren't based on Greek or Roman teachings?

    Why more so than the UK, Japan, etc?

    The French didn't invent cheese, bread, or wine, and while french cuisine is great, so are others.

    Actually I own almost no french goods except for a LV billfold and ONE hermes tie.

    Most of the philosophies they were based on were from earlier Greek and Roman teaching.

    Again, from the Greeks and Romans.

    I prefer Russian writers.

    I see more US cities on top ten lists than French ones.

    This is just a hilarious statement... I used to think the Vienese were stuck in the past, but this is just outrageous.
     
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    Well put my man, well put....every country should be proud of the accomplishments realized through their history...and hopefully some of thoe made by America have effected the world in good more ways than bad. Unfortunately the US has had such little history to live on in comparison to the rest of the world, therefore I think we are trying to make up for it faster.
     
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    Originally Posted by Roy,Feb. 25 2005,19:25
    France is not superior to any other country in the world. Every country has a history of which they are proud (usually). But don't make the mistake to think that other countries have achieved nothing.
    Well put my man, well put....every country should be proud of the accomplishments realized through their history...and hopefully some of thoe made by America have effected the world in good more ways than bad. Unfortunately the US has had such little history to live on in comparison to the rest of the world, therefore I think we are trying to make up for it faster.
    America is a melting pot and is creating world history. How much more exciting can it get? America's Roots lie in Africa, Asia and Europe. You guys have the opportunity to take the best of all and make it into something new.
     
  6. Steve B.

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    Guys- what is with all these multipage p***ng contests lately? It's like J. and I can't go anywhere w/out a fire breaking out? [​IMG]
     
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