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Watches

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SoCal2NYC, May 13, 2007.

  1. SoCal2NYC

    SoCal2NYC Well-Known Member

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    Audemars Piquet Royal Oak

    Panerai Luminor Marina PAM 49

    Patek Philippe Aquanaut

    Patek Philippe Nautilus

    Glashutte PanoReserve

    Glashutte Senator Chrono

    IWC Aquatimer

    Disregarding price...Yes? No? Maybe so? Caveat Emptors?

    Personal pics from current owners?
     
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  2. WSW

    WSW Well-Known Member

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    Are you asking which one we prefer? Kind of vague the way you have put it.
     
  3. SoCal2NYC

    SoCal2NYC Well-Known Member

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    Wanted to see what people had to say about them as I'm mulling over one of them as a potential purpose.
     
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    SoCal2NYC Well-Known Member

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    Like:

    "My _______ always loses 3-4 min a day."

    "I can't wait to own a ______ because it is utterly gorgeous."
     
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  6. SoCal2NYC

    SoCal2NYC Well-Known Member

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    You might get more help here:
    http://forums.timezone.com/


    Yes I've been to the site; but, thanks for your input.
     
  7. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    In that same size and price range I prefer the Vacheron Overseas, but then I have one so I am biased.

    I don't like the Patek sport watches. They just seem off to me in the same way that Brioni jeans are wrong.

    The Overseas is a classic, but I have not warmed to it for some reason or another.

    I like the Panerai and have thought about buying one but never pulled the trigger. I am not sure why that is.

    The acqutimer is nice, but I don't like the last 15 minute countdown detail on the face. I prefer their Pilot's watch.

    I think the PanoReserve is super cool. I would wear it. The Senator is kind of blah and for that sort of design I would head to the JLC master series.
     
  8. SoCal2NYC

    SoCal2NYC Well-Known Member

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    Oh come on Brioni jeans aren't that bad! Maybe more like Zegna stonewashed jeans?
     
  9. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    Oh come on Brioni jeans aren't that bad! Maybe more like Zegna stonewashed jeans?
    you didn't grow up in the 80s when they had pleats.
     
  10. kolecho

    kolecho Well-Known Member

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    For a real sportswatch, go with a Panerai. The others are more dressy sportswatches. If you are after a real dress watch, the list needs to be revised.
     
  11. SoCal2NYC

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    I like the Panerai and have thought about buying one but never pulled the trigger. I am not sure why that is.

    .



    I never wanted one and then I tried it on and loved it.
     
  12. ChicagoRon

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    Gotta add a Daytona to the list. I'm not a die-hard rolex guy, but that one is a work of art, and it will appreciate in value if you go stainless.
     
  13. ortolan

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    I agree that timezone is a better resource about watch quality, manufacture, and resale value. There are other watch boards frequented by wis, for example

    http://www.p178.com/
    http://www.watchnet.com/

    That may not be helpful for you on style matters. On a style board, I guess we should talk about style then. In that case you must tell us exactly what you are interested in wearing with your proposed watch.

    Of the watches you list, I think only one of them is suitable for formal wear - the Glashutte PanoReserve. I think white gold or platinum would be nice. The Panerai would be the most rough-and-ready of them all, that's an ideal steel watch to wear with jeans. The Royal Oak screams 17 mile drive, and unless you are a golfer, I wouldn't buy it. I don't like the style of the Pateks that you mention, but they are distinctive and appeal to some, and they have mainstream brand name and resale value. If you buy a Patek, no questions asked, no answers needed, much like Lobb shoes, even the ugly ones.

    I've always thought your watch case metal color should match your belt buckle, your cufflinks (and studs), your fountain pen, and sometimes your wedding ring. The watch strap color should match your belt color and your shoes. Buy several watches and you'll always have one ready for the occasion. YG brown strap, WG brown strap, YG black strap, WG black strap should cover the basics, I think. Also, when matching, WG==Platinum==Steel==Silver and YG==RG==Brass, unless you are in a different plane of satorial excellence that I can only hope to afford.

    Be aware that a big watch means you need to know the wrist circumference for your watch wrist hand for your bespoke shirt sleeve cuff (you are not using two buttons on your cuff I hope). There are ways of cheating sizes with a French cuff depending on your cufflink, so that's an advantage for French cuffs. A big watch means you need thicker padding on your cousu main watch strap, if you are a wis.

    --ortolan

    P.S. A wis might be considered a Wisconsiner, or a watch idiot savant, depending on the context. That categorization is not mutually exclusive, of course.
     
  14. LSeca

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    Glashutte PanoReserve

    I don't own any of the watches on your list, but I vote for this one for looks alone. I particularly like it with the grey face on a brown strap. Let us know what you decide.
     
  15. SoCal2NYC

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    Thanks for the links Ortlan.

    I know there are watch forums; but, I wanted to discuss it here rather than a full on watch forum where people are going to bring up the new XGC5 movment compared to the GXK6.

    I love love love the PanoReserve and am leaning towards it the most; but, I really don't need anything "dressy" (hence the sport laden rest of the list).
    The grey face on it is AMAZING; but, I love it with the black strap.

    I have a silver/brown Louis Vuitton Tambour, SS/WG Rolex Datejust and a vintage Longines mystery dial yellow gold/black. All of which have a "plain face" and can go as formal or casual as I want.

    That's why I have the sporty stuff on there; but, even then I'm not that keen on something super chrono and am leaning towards the Panerai.
     
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    The Royal Oak screams 17 mile drive, and unless you are a golfer, I wouldn't buy it.


    Really? I grew up in Monterey Bay and it was either Tags or steel/gold/blue Subs. [​IMG]
     
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    I think the Radiomir looks better:

    [​IMG]
     
  18. SoCal2NYC

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    What's the difference between the Radimor and Luminor? I really couldn't understand the lady helping me (as in her grasp of English).

    Also, I didn't check but do Panerai's have a sapphire crystal back so you can see the inner workings?

    If I get a Pan it has to have a white face and black strap...if not then maybe the Black Sea (Seal?) which is all black with a ceramic housing I think.
     
  19. mfj20th

    mfj20th Well-Known Member

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    I own a couple of the watches on your list...I disagree with iammatt about the patek sport watches--pretty silly analogy, and they couldnt be harder to get rt now...especially the jumbo Nautilus...Aquanauts are only cool if they are the jumbos as well....I think the market is really tricky on Panerai's, and the white faces dont fetch $ or hold value...the prices on the rarer ones are stupid, movements are iffy, and there is a small group pushing the price up...I am a Royal Oak fan, especially the Offshore...Glashuttes are cool, in a more accesible Lange and Sohn way, but you can get a dcent Lange for less than the AP....If you are really interested, PM me and I can get you in touch with a couple of dealers, depending on what you want. We are all members of the IWJG and NAWCC, so u are covered on legit stuff....All that said, I think the Panerais are a little played out. AP's are around and remain cool--especially the Offshores, and if you can find a jumbo aquanaut, expect to pay $11K+, and Jumbo Patek Nautilus $29K+...pretty big spread...happy to help, if you need it
    MFJ
     
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    Also, I didn't check but do Panerai's have a sapphire crystal back so you can see the inner workings?

    If I get a Pan it has to have a white face and black strap...if not then maybe the Black Sea (Seal?) which is all black with a ceramic housing I think.



    All the more reason to get the Glashutte, you know it has a crystal back.[​IMG]

    Good to see you are mentioning straps...all watches, especially a chrono, look best on straps imo.
    [​IMG]
     

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