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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by bc78, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] Please explain. What's not to like?

    Maybe I just haven't found the right stuff, or maybe it just doesn't work well on me. I've tried several models, having looked at it at both full retail and on discount, and haven't come across anything that particularly grabbed me. The fit is off and the patterns/cut don't set me on fire. But, like I said, maybe I'll find something I like down the road. And my experience is mostly with sportcoats, so maybe I'd feel differently if I needed more suits.

    It's not so much that I dislike Isaia so much that I don't get the appeal. At least so far.

    I don't dig Canali, either. Their sportcoat patterns tend to make my eyeballs itch.
     
  2. HRoi

    HRoi Well-Known Member

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    Alden
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    Oxxford (love the quality, but the fits seldom work for me)
     
  3. zalb916

    zalb916 Well-Known Member

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    I don't get people who think highly of high-end RTW shirts. You can pretty easily have made very good quality shirts made with Thomas Mason or comparable fabrics for $125 to $250. Will has a good entry about mytailor.com on his blog. Their Thomas fabrics are usually under $150, and the company is very widely available for in-person measurements.

    At heavy discount, high-end RTW shirts usually fall into the price range I listed above and are easily double at retail. Plus, you are left with the sizes, fabrics, and styles that happen to be available. Why not choose your exact fabric and style and get a much better fit? I just don't see how a few little construction details outweigh all the benefits of a custom shirt.

    And for a totally different type of thing that members highly regard that I don't get: certain WAYWRN posters. There are a few people who post outfits that are consistently highly praised that I think are ... um ... not good.
     
  4. gdl203

    gdl203 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I just haven't found the right stuff, or maybe it just doesn't work well on me. I've tried several models, having looked at it at both full retail and on discount, and haven't come across anything that particularly grabbed me. The fit is off and the patterns/cut don't set me on fire. But, like I said, maybe I'll find something I like down the road. And my experience is mostly with sportcoats, so maybe I'd feel differently if I needed more suits.

    It's not so much that I dislike Isaia so much that I don't get the appeal. At least so far.

    I don't dig Canali, either. Their sportcoat patterns tend to make my eyeballs itch.


    I see - it's surprising to hear as I know you like RL Signature as much as I do, and RLS and Isaia are the cuts that fit me the best OTR of all the RTW brands. I agree that some fabric patterns can be icky (especially some of the STP stuff) but with the righ fabric, I can't think of a better OTR suit. The fact that they can often be found for $600-800 is also a tremendous plus for me.
     
  5. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if they are popular or not, but I have always hated turtlenecks.

    I don't like them, either, except for the really chunky ones in rustic styles. And I don't wear those, just find them more appealing than the alternatives.

    On that note, I don't like thin knitwear -- needs some substance to it. And I'm not big on polos.
     
  6. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    As ever, these threads hit the rocks when we can't agree on what is popular and what is not.

    For instance, I think it is not true that Oxxford is popular here. Most will acknowlege the excellent construction (though even this is diputed) but the styling is rarely praised, and there seems to be only one happy MTM customer, and many very unhappy ones.
     
  7. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Well-Known Member

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    And for a totally different type of thing that members highly regard that I don't get: certain WAYWRN posters. There are a few people who post outfits that are consistently highly praised that I think are ... um ... not good.

    Start pointing them out constructively like others do. Don't let the rage build up.
     
  8. zalb916

    zalb916 Well-Known Member

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    As ever, these threads hit the rocks when we can't agree on what is popular and what is not.

    Exactly. Everybody is knocking turtlenecks, which I happen to hate as well. But when were they ever considered popular here? I can remember a few threads where someone like Soph talked about wearing one with a suit, but I'd hardly call it a popular item around here.
     
  9. Manton

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    Exactly. Everybody is knocking turtlenecks, which I happen to hate as well. But when were they ever considered popular here?

    I don't know if they are popular or not, but I have always hated turtlenecks.

    ..
     
  10. gdl203

    gdl203 Well-Known Member

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    Turtleneck is apparently a big trend for the upcoming F/W season. Get ready to hate on, haters
     
  11. Bhowie

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    Double or triple soled shoes.
     
  12. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I hate a lot of things. I have a list.

    FWIW, turtlenecks are nice under buttondown shirts with khakis. Don't like them with suits.
     
  13. anon

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    Wearing shoes without socks.
    Brightly colored pants, such as neon-yellow cords.
     
  14. dkzzzz

    dkzzzz Well-Known Member

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    Most bespoke clothes shown here are waste of money except for PHGuido's.
    Cordovan shoes are only good when brand new and unworn.
    G&G shoes are ugly and occasionally poorly made.
    Barker Black shoes are terrible mediocrity with skulls.
    OCBD-barf
    Canvas belts- barf
    Tasseled loafers-barf, barf
    Pants that hemmed around one's ankle.
    Alden.
    Ralph Lauren Polo or Black Label aspirational crap.
    Oxford clothes.
    Incotex.
    Samuelson-barf.
    Valextra.
    Loro Piana.
    Cucinelli sweaters.
    Split toe ,norwegese uglyness.
    Wide spread collars
     
  15. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, turtlenecks are nice under buttondown shirts with khakis.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    Most bespoke clothes shown here are waste of money except for PHGuido's.
    Cordovan shoes are only good when brand new and unworn.
    G&G shoes are ugly and occasionally poorly made.
    Barker Black shoes are terrible mediocrity with skulls.
    OCBD-barf
    Canvas belts- barf
    Tasseled loafers-barf, barf
    Pants that hemmed around one's ankle.
    Alden.
    Ralph Lauren Polo or Black Label aspirational crap.
    Oxford clothes.
    Incotex.
    Samuelson-barf.
    Valextra.
    Loro Piana.
    Cucinelli sweaters.


    I think you have covered my entire closet. [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    I feel lucky.
     
  17. Ataturk

    Ataturk Well-Known Member

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    Slim-fitting, high-water trousers--especially on folks with large feet and/or large upper bodies.
     
  18. Douglas

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    Lots of good comments on here already - I'm with Zack on RTW shirts. I don't get it at all. I may never buy another RTW shirt in my life.

    I really don't like monkstrap shoes at all. That's pretty close to iGent blasphemy, I think.

    I have a tough time with loafers in general.
     
  19. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Everybody is knocking turtlenecks, which I happen to hate as well. But when were they ever considered popular here? I can remember a few threads where someone like Soph talked about wearing one with a suit, but I'd hardly call it a popular item around here.

    This is now the Two Minutes' Hate, so the thread's actual premise goes out the window.
     
  20. Joffrey

    Joffrey Well-Known Member

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    Don't like broguing...

    Coward. Get off the forumz!
     

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