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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Winot

    Winot Well-Known Member

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    Snap. Love the way it hangs though.
     
  2. lordsuperb

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    Thank You.
     
  3. hippotamus

    hippotamus Well-Known Member

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    Is this Liverano's? Guessing it from the dartless front and notch level, and sure the open quarter
     
  4. spang

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    Wow what cloth is this? The jacket
     
  5. coolpapa

    coolpapa Well-Known Member

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    Is that the LL book? I have one suit in one of those fabrics and won't commission another because it's a suit I can wear 3-4 times/year, max. It's a shame because there's a midnight glen check in book that I absolutely love and if I could find something similar in 13 oz or so I would have that made up.
     
  6. poorsod

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    I get mine to work by wearing a Zendaline or linen shirt.
     
  7. Gianni76

    Gianni76 New Member

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    Where can I find a fabric like this but in the green , for a Norfolk jacket, thanks
    Pics come from Mr Grimod
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  8. jerrybrowne

    jerrybrowne Well-Known Member

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    That is a very special breanish fabric that I was fortunate enough to get a length of thanks to Forex. Not my SC in the pic.

    There are similar fabrics in green, that won't have the unique hand.

    Try http://www.intweed.co.uk/ to start....
     
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  9. lordsuperb

    lordsuperb Well-Known Member

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    Things I wish I never discovered: women, JAB, styleforum, and the LL. :facepalm:
     
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  10. kolecho

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    I am doing a couple of custom runs of Minnis Rangoon for the Gennaro Paone trunk shows in Hong Kong.

    It's a discontinued 250-280g (8-9oz) tropical fresco suiting. Two staples will be made. One in a light navy that is colour matched to a Caccioppoli summer hopsack. It would make a great summer blazer suit. The other one is a mid grey that is very similar to the mid grey found in the now discontinued Woodhouse Summer Comfort. Please PM me if you are interested in getting some of these cloths. Price is UKP40/m plus shipping at cost (estimated at UKP30/jacket, UKP40/suit).

    Here are some pictures to give you a sense of what I've described above.

    Caccioppoli summer light navy hopsack
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    Woodhouse Summer Comfort mid grey
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  11. gdl203

    gdl203 Well-Known Member

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    How would you describe the differences between Minnis Fresco 8/9oz and Minnis Rangoon 8/9oz ?
     
  12. ThinkDerm

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    these look amazing.
     
  13. terrorsquad

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    I'm in for 3.4 meters
     
  14. SartodiNapoli

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    [​IMG]

    Carlo Riva;

    mmm[​IMG]
     
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  15. kolecho

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    Fresco 8/9 oz is a bit lighter, wears a bit cooler, but does not have the drape of Rangoon.

    FWIW, the pants of my Fresco 8/9oz have all lost shape in seat area (and I'm not a big guy). Fresco 8/9oz also hangs longer (i.e.: finished garment measures the same as its heavier sibling but is longer when worn).
     
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  16. yasu10s

    yasu10s Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean Rangoon hangs longer?
     
  17. kolecho

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    No. I meant Fresco 8/9oz hangs longer than Fresco 9/10oz.
     
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  18. phphl

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    interesting special run! @kolecho is Rangoon less coarse than Fresco?
    On the other hand, how does Rangoon compare to Smith's finmeresco?

    Cheers.
     
  19. kolecho

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    Rangoon feels smoother than Fresco. Hand is very similar to tropical worsteds like Lesser's but it's more porous. Finnemeresco is around 11oz.
     
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  20. Brendon

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    Hi GDL203
    In reply to your question of Rangoon vs Fresco.
    I am a bespoke tailor and have used both. Very different cloths.
    Rangoon I think used to be more entry level under the John G Hardy as the business used to be set up with Minnis being the peak then Hardy then bunches with a red colour Criterion was one bunch.15-20 years ago now Can't be sure of this though has been a while for Rangoon. I bought a bit when they were clearing it out.Good cloth but nothing special. The Fresco has an extra twist in the yarn and therefore travels well. Either way the matt finish square weave will perform well against shining up.

    To all Minnis fans out there. Just working on 2 suits in their QZ .....340 g 11 1/2 ounce super 150's . Makes up superbly. Not sure if there is another 12oz 150's out there but I have been using QZ for the last couple of years and should be on your radar for a winter suit.
    My favourite cloths over the last 20 plus years, if anyone was asking?
    Dormeuil Westminster 340 g super 100's discontinued and Amadeus when it used to be 2 by 2 100's.
    Supertronic 360g Scabal high twist travel cloth discontinued
    Minnis QZ
    Hardy Minnis Crown Classic 340 g 100's 99% 1% Cashmere
    Any mohair by William Halstead.

    Good luck GDL203. I hope this is of help
    regards
    Brendon
     
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