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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. tobehknese

    tobehknese Well-Known Member

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    I do. Kiton Worsted Full Cashmere
    Happy Sunday Gents, I have an Unfunded Liability for sale - Kiton 100% worsted cashmere brown plaid fabric. 2 3/8 yards about 10oz Perfect sportcoat fabric given the versatility of the color and pattern. 300USD for this piece.
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  2. aristoi bcn

    aristoi bcn Well-Known Member

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    I do have a jacket length of LL cream linen herringbone and another jacket length of Harrison's Moonbeam medium grey herringbone to depart at cost. If someone is interested...

    I've realized I'm looking for a shade darker (oatmeal) of linen and a shade lighter of the Moonbeam.
     
  3. sprout2

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    pics
     
  4. aristoi bcn

    aristoi bcn Well-Known Member

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    Exactly like this:

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    And I'm looking for something like this (but herringbone):

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  5. sprout2

    sprout2 Well-Known Member

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    I think I found another picture at Leonard Logsdail. It seems interesting, but I don't want to look like a waiter.

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  6. cchen

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    where are you in the world where it's sunday?
     
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  7. sprout2

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  8. Concordia

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    Skip the black chinos and you'll be fine. Madras, anyone?
     
  9. jssdc

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    Yes!

    Currently Minnie Classics 0738 (12 oz dark grey/charcoal sharkskin) to be funded next week, Fresco 0520 later in the spring, and Minnis Flannels 0311 (400g dark grey chalkstripe for a three-piece in the fall).
     
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  11. venividivicibj

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    They may have more fabrics that aren't online.
     
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  12. Pliny

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    Birdseye no good? That'd be my first choice



    PS Anyone? Which Harrisons's book is Solaro in. thanks.

    oh Smiths rite
     
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  13. Bengan

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    Really? I'll write to them and ask.
     
  14. Bengan

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    No, I don't like birdseye. At the moment I am intending to order two new suits, one in dark navy and one in dark grey. The cloth should be a twill on the heavy side, at least 14 oz, preferably 16. Suggestions are welcome. I looked at Smith Woolens' Steadfast but it seems as if there is not much left in that book either:

    http://www.harrisonsofedinburgh.com/collections/smith-woollens/steadfast
     
  15. Concordia

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    P&B Universal. Also Dugdale has a 14oz book that is designed to be boring.
     
  16. Mr. Six

    Mr. Six Well-Known Member

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    P & B Universal seconded.
     
  17. sprout2

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  18. LuxireStudio

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    Tropical wool comparison: Smith Finmeresco, Minnis Fresco and Dugdale New-Fine-Worsted

    When it comes to "business dressing", wool is often the only good option. Wool has always been associated with warmth. There have been attempts to find the right material for business dressing in summer. One such successful material has been "tropical wool" or "uptwist wool" or "porous wool". lot of mills makes such fabrics these days, the most popular being Minnis Fresco, Smith Finmeresco and Dugdale's New Fine Worsted (NFW).

    A question often arises: Which of these do I choose? My standard answer has often been: All 3 are British, all 3 are good. Go with what you like best. Chose to do a comparison and went with the common weight category in the 3: 280-310 grams, 100% wool.
    The shade chosen was a yarn dyed charcoal as it was a common item in all 3 collections.

    Feel: The Minnis feels dry and distinct. It is also stiff in comparison to the other 2. The Dugdale feels softer in comparison to the Smith.

    Appearance: From a step back, all 3 appear similar. Up-close, the weave of the Minnis stands out. The Smith does appear a bit dull in comparison.

    Thickness: Minnis is the thickest, then the Dugdale and then the Smith.

    Airiness: Minnis Fresco feels cooler than the other 2. The Dugdale is the least.

    Opacity: The Dugdale is the most opaque. The Minnis the most see-through.

    Pricing: As pricing can really vary for items depending on multiple factors, it may not be right to discuss the fabric price here. To give an idea, we sell pants in the Dugdale for $179.99, in Fresco for $299.99 and Finmeresco for $349.99

    Conclusion: In a lot of ways, the Dugdale feels like a standard plain weave worsted fabric. The Minnis does feel and appear distinct, for what it is. The Smith is a good balance between the two. I would still say the same: All 3 are British, all 3 are good. Go with what you like best. If I were to choose one, I would probably go with the Minnis Fresco.


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  19. UrbanComposition

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    That was a fantastic comparison. Thank you.
     
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