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Ugolini

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by johninla, Oct 13, 2006.

  1. johninla

    johninla Well-Known Member

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    Who has had experience with Ugolini shoes and, of course, has the expereicne been worthwhile? I've looked at their site and the shoes are really beautiful. I'm wondering, also, if they're a durable as, say, English shoes (Green, Church).
    Thank you,
    John
     
  2. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I have an order in progress. I will update as the project gets further along. For now, I can confirm the folloing facts:

    - They are much better made than Green or Church. They are a handmade bespoke shoe like a Lobb, Lattanzi, Bemer etc.
    - The styles are on the exuberent side, but when you are at the shop, there are a lot of very conservative examples.
    - Pricing is ver good.
    - He seems like a nice man to deal with.
     
  3. johninla

    johninla Well-Known Member

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    iammatt,
    Thanks for the information. How did you get in touch with Ugolini?
     
  4. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    iammatt,
    Thanks for the information. How did you get in touch with Ugolini?

    I walked into his shop. He only fits and measures in Florence as far as I know. It is possible that he goes to Tokyo, but that does not help either of us.
     
  5. Baron

    Baron Well-Known Member

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    What's the starting price point for Ugolini bespoke or mtm? Can you walk in with a single measurement if visiting Florence and get shoes made and shipped to the US, or are more visits required?
     
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    If their RTW provider is Vass, I think it's a fair bet that their bespoke stuff is going to be in the stratosphere, too.
     
  7. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    If their RTW provider is Vass, I think it's a fair bet that their bespoke stuff is going to be in the stratosphere, too.
    That is the crazy part. The Vass U-last shoes cost more in the US than Ugolini bespoke does. Of course if you go to Germany or Hungary...
     
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    Demeter Well-Known Member

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    I walked into his shop. He only fits and measures in Florence as far as I know. It is possible that he goes to Tokyo, but that does not help either of us.

    Gah! I didn't even think of Ugolini when I was there. Was at Stefano Bemer's boutique three days in a row but kept missing him [​IMG]
     
  9. itsstillmatt

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    Gah! I didn't even think of Ugolini when I was there. Was at Stefano Bemer's boutique three days in a row but kept missing him [​IMG]
    Bemer makes nicer shoes... I think. I ordered a pair from each and will be able to compare. Bemer is just about twice the price, so they better be a lot better.
     
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    mkk Well-Known Member

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    I have Bemer bespoke. Generally quite nice.

    A friend of a friend was apprenticing with Ugolini, and his shoes looked very nice, very stylish. Especially priced <1000 Euro I think it's probably something of a good value.
     
  11. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I have Bemer bespoke. Generally quite nice. A friend of a friend was apprenticing with Ugolini, and his shoes looked very nice, very stylish. Especially priced <1000 Euro I think it's probably something of a good value.
    That is pretty muchwhat I thought about the value. It is well below 1k. Nice guy who seems to like his job. Hopefully they come out great, if not, no big deal. Bemer has a MUCH nicer storefront. It is a bit more commercial, what with the second store, Valextra etc. Nothing wrong with that IMO. IMO, the best makers are the ones who have enough business sense to stay in business and not have to cut corners to pay bills. The shoes do look to be of superb quality, and the price is still relatively low when compared to Rome, Paris or London.
     
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    Valextra's shoes by Bemer are rather lackluster or at least the ones I saw.
     
  13. itsstillmatt

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    Valextra's shoes by Bemer are rather lackluster or at least the ones I saw.
    Yes, the whole Bemer's (what he calls the ready made stuff) is less good. I have a pair of suede Valextra boots that I like well enough.
     
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    Valextra's shoes by Bemer are rather lackluster or at least the ones I saw.

    iagree the stuff i have i seen in last et al dont not exicte me but horses for courses but the ugolini that i have seen are just great!
     
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    I wasn't aware Rob Ugolini was only 37.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Bemer, too, is young, only about 40. Are his RTW made by Valextra?

    Bemer's got quite a bit going - bespoke, RTW, accessories. This is a trend with shoemakers, Corthay and G-G included.

    G-G:
    October 2006 contemporary and classic men's range

    January 2008 men's casual lace-ups and boots

    January 2009 made to order and high specification slippers

    January 2010 hand made bags and accessories

    January 2011 bench made ladies' range

    Corthay:
    1990 Bespoke

    2003 Ready to wear

    Mid term Sportswear

    Long term accessories

    from Paillette.net:
    5 Partners (not including CORTHAY�S BROTHERS)
    2 professionals in international luxury goods.
    2 finance executives.
    1 investor in new technologies.
    Their aim : to expand the brand name in France and
    throughout the world (strategy and finance).
    Their + : an objective view and stand back on the
    business world.
    Their common landmark : a passion for artisan
    workmanship and a love of beautiful objects.
     
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    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    No, he makes Valextra's ready made. Quality wise they are whay you would find at BEMER'S.
     
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    mkk Well-Known Member

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    Stefano does his RTW in-house? There was a young Japanese fellow doing some work at the Bemer's shop on via di Camaldoli, but...maybe he has a (third) location elsewhere like Corthay has his RTW production in Neuilly-Plaisance? I didn't ask Stefano specifics about the RTW as I wasn't particularly interested in the RTW line. The price of Bemer's RTW is almost equal to Ugolini's bespoke.
     
  19. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I think that you are right about there being a factory off site. I spoke to somebody else in the BEMER's shop. I think he said they were made in an owned factory somewhere off site, but I do not remember. I, also, was not so interested in the RTW shoes for the same reason.
     
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    That's possible. From what I saw he's got quite a few people working as apprentices in his shops. Every single one that I saw was from Japan.

    Mathew, are you planning a trip to Florence anytime soon?
     

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