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Tyrwhitt Shoe Quality

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by JR_Rider, Aug 23, 2006.

  1. Thurston

    Thurston Well-Known Member

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    I purchased the CT semi-brogues in tan/brown during the summer sale. I feel that at $150 (including shipping to my door) I paid a price that was fair at worst and good at best. The construction quality is a hair below Allen Edmonds, but they polish up nice, have worn well, are extremely comfortable and have gotten positive comments on three occasions in half a dozen wearings.
     
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    I knew the morality police would crack down on all the shoe porn sooner or later...
     
  3. AmInAm

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    It's ridiculous to lambast CT for not having the same quality as a shoe that costs over twice as much (assuming the eternal CT codes of course).

    I guess it depends on where you buy them. I recently picked up a pair of RM Williams boots at retail in Sydney for about €200 (after getting back the 10% sales tax). Currently, the CT site is offering 25% off, which makes the calf-leather shoes €225, plus shipping.
     
  4. dusty

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    I don't know where to get RM's in the US other than Ben Silver, where they're $425. CT is currently offering 40% off plus free shipping, which leaves the chelseas at $178 total.
     
  5. AmInAm

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    I don't know where to get RM's in the US other than Ben Silver, where they're $425. CT is currently offering 40% off plus free shipping, which leaves the chelseas at $178 total.

    Someone posted a link not too long ago to a place in Australia that ships RM Williams around the world at below (Australian) retail. I don't remember the URL, though; you'd have to dig through the archives to find it.

    As far as CT goes, I guess the fact that U.S. customers don't have to pay VAT makes a pretty substantial difference. We in Europe are looking at a full price of either £195 or €299 (more or less the same amount) for the calf leather shoes, while the full U.S. price is only $325 (which is more like $195 at 40% off).
     
  6. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Well-Known Member

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    I noticed on pediwear.com and Loake's own website that the black boots come in "polished leather" (I assume that means corrected grain) whereas the browns ones are available in the same leather type as well as "waxy leather."

    I believe CT carries the black ones in corrected grain and the brown ones in waxy leather. Perhaps that explains the difference.
     
  7. grimslade

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    Someone posted a link not too long ago to a place in Australia that ships RM Williams around the world at below (Australian) retail. I don't remember the URL, though; you'd have to dig through the archives to find it.


    The RM Williams source is bootsonline.com.au. I haven't used them. RMW also has a store in NYC.
     
  8. Sator

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    It's ridiculous to lambast CT for not having the same quality as a shoe that costs over twice as much (assuming the eternal CT codes of course). And for the record I'm very happy with my CT chukkas.
    If you buy from this website you can get a pair of yearling leather Craftsman for LESS than the price the Charles Tyrwhitt are charging currently. http://www.nungar.com.au Even if CT were offering their %50 off deal the price would still be highly competitive. Why pay a few bucks less when the difference is heaven and hell? I just ordered a pair of kangaroo leather Stockman jodhpur boots from this website for about $250 USD (including GST - or VAT as it is called in the UK). http://www.nungar.com.au/shop/descri...03.166.249.136 I decided to get them after comparing this and a similar pair of jodhpur boots made by JM Weston in the flesh (about 700 Euros). The JM Weston has finer stitching, and finer leather with much more refined channel stitching, but when you try them on you notice that the RM Williams chisel toed last is much more elegant than the round nosed JM Weston last used in that model. RM Williams mostly uses yearling leather that is still very good and if you order in leathers such as kangaroo and veal calf the differences then fail to justify the ridiculous price difference. I mentioned this forum to Steve, the guy that runs the website and suggested that if he advertised here or made himself known he would sell LOTS of boots here. I also suggested a special offer for forum members but I haven't heard back. If you do buy from Steve may I suggest you all make the same suggestion - if enough people do it he may relent. BTW I am planning to write as definitive a thread on RM Williams boots as I can after much research. I hope to include stuff about the differences in the leathers they offer including special order leathers.
     
  9. Nonk

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    I have a pair of RM Williams Craftsman boots.

    I rate them very highly indeed.

    I ordered mine online from a company in Australia, who were very helpful, and I avoided vat etc. I think they worked out at around £125 including postage. A great deal, they are worth the £185 full price, but I like a bargain.
     
  10. Joel_Cairo

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    BTW I am planning to write as definitive a thread on RM Williams boots as I can after much research. I hope to include stuff about the differences in the leathers they offer including special order leathers.

    I'm really looking forward to this, as my trigger finger is getting itchier and itchier everytime I read about the Craftsman. I'm just waiting for a broad base of input on their sizing/fit.
     
  11. edmorel

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    I'm really looking forward to this, as my trigger finger is getting itchier and itchier everytime I read about the Craftsman. I'm just waiting for a broad base of input on their sizing/fit.


    Me too. I like their Simpson boots and the Craftsman in kangaroo might be a nice change of pace but they only come in G fitting? Wonder how side that is.
     
  12. grimslade

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    If you buy from this website you can get a pair of yearling leather Craftsman for LESS than the price the Charles Tyrwhitt are charging currently.

    http://www.nungar.com.au

    Even if CT were offering their %50 off deal the price would still be highly competitive. Why pay a few bucks less when the difference is heaven and hell?


    Thanks. Great pricing. The web site is a little confusing. Any idea what he means by "voucher pricing" on the Yearling Craftsmen?
     
  13. Sator

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    Me too. I like their Simpson boots and the Craftsman in kangaroo might be a nice change of pace but they only come in G fitting? Wonder how side that is.

    The Craftsman is available in an H fitting. The Simpson boot is on a last called the G Joey last and is runs a half width wider anyway. I have to drop down one size for the Simpson.

    I am less keen on the Simpson boot. The last is an awfully snubbed nosed rounded toe last. It is also emblazened with the RM Williams logo on the side which I think is a serious aesthetic blemish. I sent an email to RM Williams lamenting these fact. When they have such beautiful lasts such as their chisel toe last, the narrow medium toe, and the wide toe last they are shooting themselves in the foot in using the G Joey last for their Chukka boot.
     
  14. grimslade

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    The Craftsman is available in an H fitting. The Simpson boot is on a last called the G Joey last and is runs a half width wider anyway. I have to drop down one size for the Simpson.

    I am less keen on the Simpson boot. The last is an awfully snubbed nosed rounded toe last. It is also emblazened with the RM Williams logo on the side which I think is a serious aesthetic blemish. I sent an email to RM Williams lamenting these fact. When they have such beautiful lasts such as their chisel toe last, the narrow medium toe, and the wide toe last they are shooting themselves in the foot in using the G Joey last for their Chukka boot.



    So, what's up with the "voucher pricing" section?

    And what do you think of the chestnut vs. the black? The Chestnut is so dark, it's hard for me to tell just how different from black it looks in person...
     
  15. Nonk

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    Get the chestnut.

    The pics are unclear but in reality the dark tan is a mid tan and the chestnut is a dark tan.
     
  16. edmorel

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    The Craftsman is available in an H fitting. The Simpson boot is on a last called the G Joey last and is runs a half width wider anyway. I have to drop down one size for the Simpson.

    I am less keen on the Simpson boot. The last is an awfully snubbed nosed rounded toe last. It is also emblazened with the RM Williams logo on the side which I think is a serious aesthetic blemish. I sent an email to RM Williams lamenting these fact. When they have such beautiful lasts such as their chisel toe last, the narrow medium toe, and the wide toe last they are shooting themselves in the foot in using the G Joey last for their Chukka boot.


    Thanks, did not notice that about their Simpson boot. Would the H fitting not be wider than the G? I am looking to go narrower not wider. Do they have an F fitting?
     
  17. Sator

    Sator Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, did not notice that about their Simpson boot. Would the H fitting not be wider than the G? I am looking to go narrower not wider. Do they have an F fitting?

    No they don't. That's why I had to drop down a size. I have posted sizing information a couple of times before. If you do a search you will find it.
     

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