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Transparent Moderation Log & Site Topics - Part I

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by j, May 7, 2006.

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  1. Jumbie

    Jumbie Well-Known Member

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    Squirreled Air America thread. I get tired of defending myself for having beliefs.

    I read maybe the first three posts in that thread so I don't know what transpired in there but it seems to me, based on the part I bolded, like you're using your mod powers for your own personal "gain"??
     
  2. gdl203

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    Well said. I am somewhat sympathetic to dah's point, but at least DT lacks the self-seriousness of the CEsspool.

    I may be the only one here who finds redeeming qualities in the CEsspool : it allows us to understand a little better who the people behind the screen names are. If I was only reading the MC forum, I wouldn't know much about these posters - but reading what they write in the CEsspool, I can start to understand their personlities a little better. I'm sure this has absolutely no importance for many SFers but I kinda like that.

    DT can be funny but very rarely. The majority of OPs there think they're funny but they're just strange. Then comes Thomas or another talented DTer and things get better.
     
  3. CunningSmeagol

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    I read maybe the first three posts in that thread so I don't know what transpired in there but it seems to me, based on the part I bolded, like you're using your mod powers for your own personal "gain"??

    If I were a mod here I would ban everyone with whom I had disagreement. I don't see why mods should restrain themselves.
     
  4. edmorel

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    I may be the only one here who finds redeeming qualities in the CEsspool : it allows us to understand a little better who the people behind the screen names are. If I was only reading the MC forum, I wouldn't know much about these posters - but reading what they write in the CEsspool, I can start to understand their personlities a little better. I'm sure this has absolutely no importance for many SFers but I kinda like that.

    DT can be funny but very rarely. The majority of OPs there think they're funny but they're just strange. Then comes Thomas or another talented DTer and things get better.


    DT is what it is, I read something offensive there, I know it's something some keyboard warrior is typing to get a response, get a lulz. I go to CE, see a serious topic, then read how gays are not equal to "regular" human beings, read the regular racism, read the constant "how can anyone with a brain be religious?" and then stuff in DT seems very innocuous.
     
  5. Piobaire

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    Squirreled Air America thread. I get tired of defending myself for having beliefs.

    No comment.
     
  6. gdl203

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    DT is what it is, I read something offensive there, I know it's something some keyboard warrior is typing to get a response, get a lulz. I go to CE, see a serious topic, then read how gays are not equal to "regular" human beings, read the regular racism, read the constant "how can anyone with a brain be religious?" and then stuff in DT seems very innocuous.

    Yea - but aren't you glad you can read what these people really think? It's eye-opening and quite informative.
     
  7. why

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    I get tired of defending myself for having beliefs.

    Lots of people on SF have beliefs, and luckily they don't all have mod powers too. What was that thread about? Wasn't it just a unanimous 'good riddance'?

    Yea - but aren't you glad you can read what these people really think? It's eye-opening and quite informative.

    I'd say it's more mind-numbing, but to each his own.
     
  8. RJman

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    If there was no CE, maybe I would still have my e-BFF. [​IMG]
     
  9. Piobaire

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    If there was no CE, maybe I would still have my e-BFF. [​IMG]

    We're not e-BFFs? [​IMG]
     
  10. Xiaogou

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    If there was no CE, maybe I would still have my e-BFF. [​IMG]

    Who was your bff and what happened? [​IMG]
     
  11. redcaimen

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    Squirreled Air America thread. I get tired of defending myself for having beliefs.

    Get some beliefs that are less taxing to defend.
     
  12. edmorel

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    Squirreled Air America thread. I get tired of defending myself for having beliefs.

    Steve, don't really read much of your posts (enough to know that you are on the left) and did not read Air America but I have read posts by others complaining of this type of action that you take as a Mod. There is nothing wrong with having unpopular beliefs and you are not going to convert anyone here but to shut down the conversation is rather Ask Andyish and not to anyone's benefit. Write what you believe, defend it to what ever level you feel you need to and then move on. Again, did not read the threak and if there was anyhting offensive there, I understand removing it.
     
  13. Dakota rube

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    I was following the thread, and I'm surprised, frankly, that SteveB found it to be squirrel-worthy. Usually I have no problem at all with the mods squirrelling, but this one seems a little heavy-handed; especially if, as SteveB said, it is merely to rid himself of the task of defending himself. I found nothing in there obscene, racist or otherwise morally reprehensible.
     
  14. oneeightyseven

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    Steve, don't really read much of your posts (enough to know that you are on the left) and did not read Air America but I have read posts by others complaining of this type of action that you take as a Mod. There is nothing wrong with having unpopular beliefs and you are not going to convert anyone here but to shut down the conversation is rather Ask Andyish and not to anyone's benefit. Write what you believe, defend it to what ever level you feel you need to and then move on. Again, did not read the threak and if there was anyhting offensive there, I understand removing it.

    yeah I don't think that removing a thread because people don't like what you say is right or they think it's stupid. Hell, if I did that for every retarded thing I've posted, I'd have a 0 post count. Seriously though, that is rather childish and kinda reminds of something that Cartman would do lol.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. rach2jlc

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    I was following the thread, and I'm surprised, frankly, that SteveB found it to be squirrel-worthy. Usually I have no problem at all with the mods squirrelling, but this one seems a little heavy-handed; especially if, as SteveB said, it is merely to rid himself of the task of defending himself. I found nothing in there obscene, racist or otherwise morally reprehensible.
    +1. He has a pattern of doing this; I don't get it either. Though, like Ed, I didn't follow the thread closely... isn't much of the point of CE having to defend or articulate your viewpoints or arguments? If it's just supposed to be a Drudge Report accumulation of links with 50 word summaries... what's the point?
     
  16. Tokyo Slim

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment This is what happens when you give hippies a nightstick and some authority. Steve has long been the least stable, most arbitrary, and most biased mod. He's also the second most tenured person on the forum besides J. Every once in a while I try to push him over the edge for the greater good, but so far he resists my attempts. I don't trust him. One of these days he's going to snap and it's going to be a big deal.
     
  17. dah328

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    Squirreled Air America thread. I get tired of defending myself for having beliefs.
    Ridiculous. I differ with all the mods to some degree or another when it comes to politics, but to the credit of all the non-SteveB mods, they all seem pretty even-handed in their moderation of CEPM and none squirrel threads or threaten to ban posters who criticize their views. Maybe it's time to make SteveB moderator of the less controversial forums.
     
  18. aportnoy

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    If there was no CE, maybe I would still have my e-BFF. [​IMG]

    I think you're over dramatizing...a love once born etc.
     
  19. Tokyo Slim

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    Ridiculous. I differ with all the mods to some degree or another when it comes to politics, but to the credit of all the non-SteveB mods, they all seem pretty even-handed in their moderation of CEPM and none squirrel threads or threaten to ban posters who criticize their views. Maybe it's time to make SteveB moderator of the less controversial forums.
    Strangely enough, SteveB is not officially a moderator of the CE forum. Just wanted to point that out.
     
  20. itsstillmatt

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    lol. Hope I don't get a night in the box for saying that.

    I agree with gdl in that the CE gives interesting insight into people. I also agree with why in that it is often painful. Interestingly, my favorite people to read, and the ones for whom I have gained more respect by reading their posts are often those whose opinions are diametrically opposed to mine.
     
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