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Training for half marathon + Hypertrophy training = ?

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by X_X, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. X_X

    X_X Well-Known Member

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    I'm training for a half marathon staring today (not to seriously compete) and will run 5 times a week. I'm working out 3 times a week and will eat maintenance accounting for the extra exercise.


    I'm hoping to stay the same weight with some nice recomp going.

    What do you guys think will happen?


    I might post some before and after pics after its all over.
     
  2. Lagrangian

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    Your run times will improve.
     
  3. Cool The Kid

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    I hope you have time to sleep ~12 hours a day

    Naw I am just kidding but yea that is some intense training

    However pro athletes do it somehow.
     
  4. X_X

    X_X Well-Known Member

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    I hope you have time to sleep ~12 hours a day

    Naw I am just kidding but yea that is some intense training

    However pro athletes do it somehow.




    That's what I was thinking, how everyone repeats that you cant gain any muscle while running but football players somehow are huge while running God knows how many miles a day.
     
  5. akatsuki

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    That's what I was thinking, how everyone repeats that you cant gain any muscle while running but football players somehow are huge while running God knows how many miles a day.

    They are also doing steroids and running interval sprints instead of steady distance.
     
  6. munchausen

    munchausen Well-Known Member

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    They are also doing steroids and running interval sprints instead of steady distance.
    And they are eating something like double to triple their maintenance calories, which is why they have short life expectancies. They've spent their entire lives eating massive amounts of food and when they retire, they stop doing the exercise but keep up the cals.
     
  7. jarude

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    That's what I was thinking, how everyone repeats that you cant gain any muscle while running but football players somehow are huge while running God knows how many miles a day.

    Professional football players are genetic marvels who can get 24" biceps by jerking off and eating potato chips.

    Hypertrophy training + marathon training = two opposite sides of the spectrum. I would do one or the other, but I'm interested to see how it works out.
     
  8. Mr. Clean

    Mr. Clean Well-Known Member

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    How's you training going? If you are a beginner, running 5 times a week sounds like a lot. Keep in mind that running can be really hard on your body. Take it easy!

    I've been combing the two for about half a year now. Results are as follows:

    Your run times will improve.
     
  9. Cool The Kid

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    And they are eating something like double to triple their maintenance calories, which is why they have short life expectancies. They've spent their entire lives eating massive amounts of food and when they retire, they stop doing the exercise but keep up the cals.
    Yea the steroids and intense physical activity have nothing to do with it (7)
     
  10. X_X

    X_X Well-Known Member

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    We'll see how it goes, I'm feeling great so far.

    I know what gets repeated, but I just started to doubt it lately.

    According to bro science, if you eat maintenance you should not gain muscle or lose fat which
    should be the same as not working out. I skeptical after seen men in great shape with out bulking and cutting.
     
  11. Cool The Kid

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    Well it depends on what you call maintenance.

    But if you eat your BMR + whatever you lose from running, you will "recomp"... i.e. put on muscle and burn fat r e a l l y s l o w l y.
     
  12. Saul Silver

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    I've been doing this for the past couple months or so, with mixed results. I've put on some muscle and increased my lifts, but I have a feeling they're going to plateau fairly soon - at which I will have to decide which activity to focus on. It does feel cool to go for a run and look/feel way more jacked than the other runners out there.

    FWIW, I'm a student on summer break and only work part-time, so I have plenty of time for exercise and recuperation. Doing this while working a 9-5 would be much more difficult.
     
  13. Thomas

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    OP, I have no idea what the bro science is, nor what to tell you to expect, because I don't know your expected training plan (distance/track/hills), and I don't know your current level of conditioning. But I do wish you luck, both with your training and your upcoming race.
     
  14. CrimProf

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    I'm up to half marathon distance, basically from couch to 13 miles.

    I started slowly. I walked on the treadmill to start and kept upping the times and speed until I was jogging. From there, I kept gradually adding distance--as much as I felt I could handle. I didn't try to rush anything, which is why I think I was able to keep at it. I didn't overtax my body; I just kept pushing in small doses.

    I ran three days a week (MWF). I might have started out at 3 miles per outing when I graduated from the treadmill to the road (now I do 10, 9, 10 or 8, 12-13, 7). I walked on the off days. You may be feeling good now running five days a week, but if you haven't run before your body isn't going to be up to it unless you're really running short distances. It takes time for your muscles to adjust and for your cardiovascular system to train to the point where you don't get winded. That doesn't usually happen overnight. And resting was part of that. But whatever works for you; the important thing is to keep at it.

    Run on your toes. Don't strike the ground with your heel. Your knees will thank you on the long slogs. Taken an id bracelet so the police will know where to mail your body when some idiot driver who isn't watching where he's going knocks you into the bushes. Don't wear cotton anything unless you want to have chafed and bleeding nipples and feet blistered all to hell.

    As for body recomp, I haven't lifted weights in three years. I had to start again this week because my upper body muscles have disappeared. My lower body is nicely toned, or at least my woman appreciates it. But such muscles as I show are because I have practically no body fat.
     
  15. Kajak

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    Professional football players are genetic marvels who can get 24" biceps by jerking off and eating potato chips.

    Hypertrophy training + marathon training = two opposite sides of the spectrum. I would do one THEN the other whilst maintaining the first, but I'm interested to see how it works out.


    Periodization FTW.
     
  16. 604Coast

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    I've been pondering signing up for Crossfit which seems like it tries to combine cardio and lifting into one coheisive fitness plan. Will report back if I go through with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfit for more info.
     
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    I've been pondering signing up for Crossfit which seems like it tries to combine cardio and lifting into one coheisive fitness plan. Will report back if I go through with it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfit for more info.


    Crossfit is a dirty word on this forum...

    But I do it and like it fine. I'd just say that they do a crap job teaching the O-lifts and doing them along with deadlifts for time is the stupidest thing ever.
     
  18. acularw

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    Crossfit is a dirty word on this forum...

    But I do it and like it fine. I'd just say that they do a crap job teaching the O-lifts and doing them along with deadlifts for time is the stupidest thing ever.


    Crossfit fits the needs of a lot of people that work out. If you do it you definitely want trainers that will show you proper form and actually enforce it throughout the workout.

    While classes I have seen have not been that bad, 90% of the people that try to do their own routine in the open gym have the worst form imaginable. Bad form mixed with someone going through a routine that does not give you much time to stop and think is a terrible combination.

    I bet chiropractors love crossfit...
     
  19. Cool The Kid

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    I dont' know about Crossfit mayne

    U want to lift u lift

    Cardio u cardio

    I like sex, I like video games. I don't mix
     
  20. Kajak

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    I like sex, I like video games. I don't mix

    God invented doggystyle for a reason.

    So we can both watch X-Files.
     

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