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Top Chef All Stars

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Manton, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. Roikins

    Roikins Well-Known Member

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    Dale did a good job picking Marcel as the other team leader; I'm sure everyone knew Marcel was arrogant and would be an awful leader, so it was a great way to ensure the other team would have a better chance at failing.
     
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    Dale did a good job picking Marcel as the other team leader; I'm sure everyone knew Marcel was arrogant and would be an awful leader, so it was a great way to ensure the other team would have a better chance at failing.

    It truly was great. Marcel got so outmaneuvered on that one. He was excited about the chance and he did pick a team of individuals. Dale fucked him and Marcel thanked him for it.
     
  3. StephenHero

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    Those teams could not have been more lopsided. As soon as Marcel started arguing about writing things down on paper and the name of the restaurant, everything going up in flames was inevitable.

    And Tiffany was really fucking annoying that episode too. She always hollers when she's talking as if she's on a carnival ride.
     
  4. foodguy

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    angelo <3 crudos

    he does, but you notice he always gets slapped down for them? it's really hard to balance the delicate flavor of raw fish with other ingredients. all that looking for snap-crackle-pop really backfires. dave pasternack does an amazing job with it.
     
  5. kwilkinson

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    I take it that the comments above re: Ludo were in jest?

    Ludo is an assbag.
     
  6. foodguy

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    anybody who has ever been a boss knows that the worst thing you can do is talk at people telling them what to do. until you get secure enough in your ability that you can bring people along by convincing them that they can be great -- even greater than you -- you're just begging for mutinies.
     
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    Ludo is an assbag.
    now now. he's actually a nice guy. he's just convinced he's operating on another planet than everyone else (and so far he's convinced a surprising number of other people as well). I'm consistently left befuddled by his food, though. there just doesn't seem to be much "there there". others disagree. fabio on the other hand ... though i do admire the way he stepped out and really managed the FOH. i guess i've just known too many of those italians whose strongest culinary skill is hand-kissing and speaking in an accent.
     
  8. ChicagoRon

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    now now. he's actually a nice guy. he's just convinced he's operating on another planet than everyone else (and so far he's convinced a surprising number of other people as well). I'm consistently left befuddled by his food, though. there just doesn't seem to be much "there there". others disagree. fabio on the other hand ... though i do admire the way he stepped out and really managed the FOH. i guess i've just known too many of those italians whose strongest culinary skill is hand-kissing and speaking in an accent.
    It worked for Sirio Maccioni Side note - a good friend of mine was on Dinner Impossible... so I watched it. THAT GUY is an assbag... but he's entertaining.
     
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    It worked for Sirio Maccioni
    ahem, yes.
    don't know him, but i worked with guy fieri on his first show ...
     
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    It worked for Sirio Maccioni

    Very true.

    Did you see that HBO documentary on Le Cirque? All due respect to Mr. Maccioni, but I don't even think he could make a bowl of cereal.
     
  11. ChicagoRon

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    Very true. Did you see that HBO documentary on Le Cirque? All due respect to Mr. Maccioni, but I don't even think he could make a bowl of cereal.
    I did... it was great. So, the guy couldn't cook, but he knew how to make an experience for diners and hire a chef that could live up to what he was trying to build. I doubt Drew Nioperent or Jeff Chodorow could make a PBJ sandwich either.
     
  12. foodguy

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    to a certain extent, he shouldn't have to. i mean, i've been to a ton of restaurants where the owner had little more going for him than 3 dishes, charm and an ability to run a good small organization. and i've been much happier most times than someplace where the owner has a boatload of skills, wild ideas and absolutely no idea how to run a business. of course, that's not what top chef is necessarily all about.
     
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    I doubt Drew Nioperent or Jeff Chodorow could make a PBJ sandwich either.

    drew's a decent enough cook. chodorow, nope. and that's also a criticism that's been leveled at alice waters, with only a certain amount of validity.
     
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    I did... it was great. So, the guy couldn't cook, but he knew how to make an experience for diners and hire a chef that could live up to what he was trying to build.

    I doubt Drew Nioperent or Jeff Chodorow could make a PBJ sandwich either.


    Agreed. He is very old school Italian, which I think contributes to why he is so successful.

    I especially liked the part of the documentary where they were all eating at McDonalds. A nice juxtaposition.
     
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    drew's a decent enough cook. chodorow, nope. and that's also a criticism that's been leveled at alice waters, with only a certain amount of validity.
    She's got one friggin' restaurant. She better be able to cook. THe others, at least, have empires.
     
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    I've heard that Alice Waters can cut fresh produce and plate it beautifully almost on par with the Eataly Vegetable Butcher. The only difference is, she cries over each carrot as she slides her blade through it.
     
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    to a certain extent, he shouldn't have to. i mean, i've been to a ton of restaurants where the owner had little more going for him than 3 dishes, charm and an ability to run a good small organization. and i've been much happier most times than someplace where the owner has a boatload of skills, wild ideas and absolutely no idea how to run a business. of course, that's not what top chef is necessarily all about.
    What exactly is this abomination of a show about anyway?
     
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    What exactly is this abomination of a show about anyway?

    like so much of other tv, confrontation. and don't criticize too much until you give up CE.
     
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    like so much of other tv, confrontation. and don't criticize too much until you give up CE.
    The point of CE is discussion. You were supposed to be a universal lover, I thought.
     
  20. ChicagoRon

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    What exactly is this abomination of a show about anyway?
    you're more mysanthropic than usually lately, Matt... it's a fun show... now, complaining about the dialog on the virtue of economic growth, wel... that was justifed.
     

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