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TOOK YOUR GUYS advice but with my personal style

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dressed2kill, May 22, 2006.

  1. seen

    seen Well-Known Member

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    Signing on too, even if it is apparently politically incorrect to do so. I feel like a lot of the positive reactions here are straight out of "The Emperor's New Clothes," in that a lot of people are acting out of a desire not to hurt the guy's feelings or a desire not to have their own individual quirks called into question, and thus throwing out platitudes to distract from what almost everyone reading this is thinking. Developing a unique individual style out of a deep understanding of basics and conventions and a grasp of how to selectively break rules while still maintaining a respectable appearance is a good thing. Coming out of nowhere and throwing on blatantly over the top outfits in inappropriate situations to scream for attention makes you look silly.

    For those of you who are familiar with Married with Children, I would say that given the OP's age, appearance, and mannerisms he reminds me of some combination of Bud Bundy's brief "dressing like an English courtier" phase (in terms of someone wearing archaic clothing that's way too old for him in daily settings) and Bud's Grandmaster B character (in terms of the whole tiny white suburban teenager trying to put on a macho thug persona).

    Seriously, just relegate the suit to dressy occasions, get a few pairs of jeans or cords, and lose the fedora altogether. I have never seen a college age person (or someone below 30 on a day that was not cold enough to merit a hat) wear a fedora without looking like an absolute tool who was trying waaaaaaaaaaaay too hard to impress people.

    It may be harsh, but I'm giving my honest reaction.


    That's exactly it.
     
  2. Girardian

    Girardian Well-Known Member

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    Again this reverts to the question of what D2K is out to do -- if his goal is to refine his style to something that is seen by all to be classic and to emanate taste, he may need to defer (to some degree) to age and circumstance appropriate behavior.

    If, on the other hand, he's out to refine his own unique style, he can do so knowing that it may sometimes go against the grain of age or circumstance.

    The advice above about the potential negative reaction some may have to those who overdress (or the social faux pax it may create) is worth noting. There's nothing scandalous about overdressing in class (where clothing and outfits are entirely a personal choice and people often dress in ways that intentionally make them stand out), but it is advisable not to shamelessly overdress a new boss. This is not merely a question of conformity, but an issue of respect and an effort not to make others exceptionally or inappropriately uncomfortable by calling attention (though your own dress) to their own (comparatively unrefined or unconsidered) appearance.
     
  3. montecristo#4

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    Signing on too, even if it is apparently politically incorrect to do so. I feel like a lot of the positive reactions here are straight out of "The Emperor's New Clothes," in that a lot of people are acting out of a desire not to hurt the guy's feelings or a desire not to have their own individual quirks called into question, and thus throwing out platitudes to distract from what almost everyone reading this is thinking. Developing a unique individual style out of a deep understanding of basics and conventions and a grasp of how to selectively break rules while still maintaining a respectable appearance is a good thing. Coming out of nowhere and throwing on blatantly over the top outfits in inappropriate situations to scream for attention makes you look silly.

    For those of you who are familiar with Married with Children, I would say that given the OP's age, appearance, and mannerisms he reminds me of some combination of Bud Bundy's brief "dressing like an English courtier" phase (in terms of someone wearing archaic clothing that's way too old for him in daily settings) and Bud's Grandmaster B character (in terms of the whole tiny white suburban teenager trying to put on a macho thug persona).

    Seriously, just relegate the suit to dressy occasions, get a few pairs of jeans or cords, and lose the fedora altogether. I have never seen a college age person (or someone below 30 on a day that was not cold enough to merit a hat) wear a fedora without looking like an absolute tool who was trying waaaaaaaaaaaay too hard to impress people.

    It may be harsh, but I'm giving my honest reaction.


    I'm jumping on this bandwagon as well.
     
  4. dressed2kill

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    The whole point of my argument is that I dress for myself and no one else. Most of you don't get that but the students at school do. Why because they know me. I get your advice, and it isn't offending me, I just don't agree, that simple. I think we have had enought of this discussion. Plus I do have a silk plush top hat only reserved for formal ocaasions. I bet that will make most of you cringe. Too bad. You are free to make your statments, that I remind you of a thug or a costume or any other steryotype, just remember you've never met me.
     
  5. Film Noir Buff

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    The whole point of my argument is that I dress for myself and no one else. Most of you don't get that but the students at school do. Why because they know me. I get your advice, and it isn't offending me, I just don't agree, that simple. I think we have had enought of this discussion. Plus I do have a silk plush top hat only reserved for formal ocaasions. I bet that will make most of you cringe. Too bad. You are free to make your statments, that I remind you of a thug or a costume or any other steryotype, just remember you've never met me.


    Sup dressed2kill?

    You might check this article out as at least one basic place to start out from. Perhaps before you commit too much to branching out too early, it may serve you well to master the fundamentals.

    http://www.filmnoirbuff.com/article/...back-to-basics
     
  6. dressed2kill

    dressed2kill Well-Known Member

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    Sup dressed2kill? You might check this article out as at least one basic place to start out from. Perhaps before you commit to much to branching out too early, it may serve you well to master the fundamentals. http://www.filmnoirbuff.com/article/...back-to-basics
    Very intresting. Gotta get the basics
     
  7. Film Noir Buff

    Film Noir Buff Well-Known Member

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    Very intresting.

    Gotta get the basics



    Consider getting Alan Flusser's Dressing the Man, which i believe is probably available on amazon used/new for a reasonable price.

    Being and individualist is very cool. Youre an American and you have the spirit. Im quite individualistic myself and no one tells me what to wear. However, I learned the basics and if I like something, i find myself wanting to learn more. You have a long fun road ahead with clothes. After a certain point, fixed rules are for wimps but guidelines can help you on your road to enhancing your personal style.

    Never lose your enthusiasm for clothes, it will serve you well.
     
  8. dressed2kill

    dressed2kill Well-Known Member

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    This may seem like a joke, but my dad had got me that book on his trip to St Louis last Hanukkah.
     
  9. jml90

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    I don't know why D2K is getting so much slack for this.
    I think it's just because it's not used to what we're seeing.
    Kinda like when the africans came over
     
  10. Girardian

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    I don't know why D2K is getting so much slack for this.

    I believe you mean "flack."
     
  11. skalogre

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    I don't know why D2K is getting so much slack for this.
    I think it's just because it's not used to what we're seeing.
    Kinda like when the africans came over


    Africans?
     
  12. gdl203

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    I don't know why D2K is getting so much slack for this.
    I think it's just because it's not used to what we're seeing.
    Kinda like when the africans came over


    None of these three sentences make any sense to me.
     
  13. LabelKing

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    I don't feel telling dressed2kill to lose the fedora and get some cords or jeans is particularly the best advice.

    If he wants a distinct look then telling him to dress more conventionally is not the point.
     
  14. skalogre

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    None of these three sentences make any sense to me.

    Same here - something about the post's style sounds oddly familiar though [​IMG] .
    Anyway, I think there is some sage advice in the thread. I am almost thirty and while I have toyed with the idea of a fedora I cannot possibly see myself wearing one without looking, well, "off".
     
  15. dressed2kill

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    I know when I don't belong. I think the fedora lounge is just right.
     
  16. skalogre

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    I know when I don't belong. I think the fedora lounge is just right.
    Well, if you decide that FL fits your style better, good luck (I am not being sarcastic). They will be able to help you work out the exact style and size of hat that will suit your body type, also, as that is their main focus. [​IMG] Oh crap. 993 posts. Almost at the 1k mark. [​IMG]
     
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    I know when I don't belong. I think the fedora lounge is just right.
    Well have fun; at least you all can look like pretentious tools who thinks wearing laughably outdated and age-inappropriate clothing makes you unique rosebuds sporting that cutting edge fashion! Anyone know where I can find the knee breeches and powdered wigs forum? They're not ugly and unwearable, those conformists are just too out of style to appreciate them! Edit: just thought I'd add that if you really want to present yourself as some 1930's gentleman, you'd go a lot farther to take the time to communicate using proper English spelling and grammar, as I hear that was all the rage in the vintage days.
     
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    Well have fun; at least you all can look like pretentious tools who thinks wearing laughably outdated and age-inappropriate clothing makes you unique rosebuds sporting that cutting edge fashion!

    Anyone know where I can find the knee breeches and powdered wigs forum? They're not ugly and unwearable, those conformists are just too out of style to appreciate them!

    Edit: just thought I'd add that if you really want to present yourself as some 1930's gentleman, you'd go a lot farther to take the time to communicate using proper English spelling and grammar, as I hear that was all the rage in the vintage days.


    Are you wearing square toed Kenneth Coles?
    Because the "pointy toes" are out of style
     
  19. skalogre

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    Are you wearing square toed Kenneth Coles?
    Because the "pointy toes" are out of style


    Dear dear dear... this is going to go down well [​IMG]
     
  20. dressed2kill

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    Well have fun; at least you all can look like pretentious tools who thinks wearing laughably outdated and age-inappropriate clothing makes you unique rosebuds sporting that cutting edge fashion!

    Anyone know where I can find the knee breeches and powdered wigs forum? They're not ugly and unwearable, those conformists are just too out of style to appreciate them!

    Edit: just thought I'd add that if you really want to present yourself as some 1930's gentleman, you'd go a lot farther to take the time to communicate using proper English spelling and grammar, as I hear that was all the rage in the vintage days.


    I'll take that as a comliment. I don't have a problem with you so please don't go trying to start one with me.
     

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