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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. nkwu

    nkwu Well-Known Member

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    Waiting on a July leather MA-1. The only ones that have (reports of) gone out are wool
     
  2. Distorbiant

    Distorbiant Well-Known Member

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    So your jacket doesnt get wider from the midsection to the waist? The whole point is to have it come in at the midsection and then taper out again.

    And a whole 1.4" more around the chest is pretty damn significant.

    The standard ratio is (chest size) x (1.08) = Measurement for jacket, as per Charly's measurement he gave you.
     
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  3. 0x1A4

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    No it doesn't get wider from the midsection to the waist, this is probably what is causing the bunching at the side. And there is excess room around the chest.

    Based on the measurements the jacket wasn't made exactly to spec, isn't that the whole point of mtm?

    Does anyone have experience with leather jacket alterations? Really don't want to send the jacket back to Korea. Or I can live with it I guess, just really wanted a perfect fit.
     
  4. nyarkies

    nyarkies Well-Known Member

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    It's the midsection measurement that killed the fit. It's really off.
     
  5. RetroFuture

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    Sell it and buy this, lot's of positive recommendations from this thread

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  6. brad-t

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  7. pl0nky

    pl0nky Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys so I was looking through my ToJ email chain because people thought it seemed odd that my order went out already. It turns out I sent payment for a full leather 12/16/13. I changed my order from a full leather to a wool ma1 and toj0 in april 2014 and changed the colors around for them 11/2014. This was essentially finalized when we were asked to email toj our orders 12/2014. So, I guess I was just part of the batch that went out. I feel like this batch of jackets was made recently, which is why I was part of it.
     
  8. Prudy

    Prudy Well-Known Member

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    lol you guys are consistently getting what you deserve, at least.

    As I said initially, that jacket is too big in the chest and waist. In terms of tailoring leather, forget it. Very difficult/specialized skill and you would need $$$ and a great tailor. Not worth it on that jacket.

    I now refrain from any other smart ass comments, but I would see about getting ToJ to fix that, if possible.
     
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  9. iamacyborg

    iamacyborg Well-Known Member

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    Your jacket is covered in vajazzle, shut the fuck up.
     
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  10. ktown

    ktown Well-Known Member

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    I am consistently getting what I deserve. I paid $800 for a jacket and have received nothing. So $800 = nothing. Perhaps for someone who spends $$$$ on jackets, it may be nothing. However for me that amount could have been used toward other purchases.

    With that said, I do agree that the jacket fit isn't great. But at this point, I would sell the piece if I were him. At least he has something to sell.
     
  11. nyarkies

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    I don't know about selling that. Unless somebody out there has a smaller hip bone measurement than their midsection, it's not gonna fit anybody else properly.
     
  12. ktown

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    Many people are overweight and have larger midsections than their hips. I do concede the average customer who would be interested in such a jacket would not be significantly overweight, but it might work for the right person. If he let it go for say 50%-75% of purchase price, he could use it toward another purchase. Since he is aiming for perfect fit, I believe this is the cost of doing MTM business as a consumer. You don't always know with 100% certainty that your custom pieces will be made exactly to spec.
     
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  13. nyarkies

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    The chest needs to be slimmed down then. I'm thinking an overweight person will have his midsection bigger than both his chest and hips.
     
  14. Prudy

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    I was referring to the folks who keep dredging up my jacket, man.

    Just so you know, $800 isn't nothing to me but at some point you are going to have to stop whining and take your damn medicine. You're the one who decided to roll the dice and send your *precious* $800 to some random dude on the internet, deal w/ it already. We all make mistakes, right?

    And there's no way anyone should buy that jacket, the proportions are incorrect and it will look bad on everyone who wears it.
     
  15. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Well-Known Member

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    I could be wrong, but I think you were quoted a particularly high price because of the number of rhinestones you wanted taken out.
     
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  16. Prudy

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    So you don't agree that spending the money to tailor that jacket correctly would be too expensive?
     
  17. nyarkies

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    Wait... you had the studs taken out?
     
  18. dieworkwear

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    I think you're assuming too much.

    I've had the fullness taken out of the back of a leather jacket before, and it ran me $75. Wasn't that much more than what I've paid for alterations on sport coats. The guy who did it is a leather specialist and does repairs for Japanese repro enthusiasts around the world.

    A lot depends on the construction of the jacket, the skill of the tailor, and what needs to be done. Unlike other garments --- such as suits or dress shirts -- leather jackets can vary wildly in terms of construction. You have more panels, random detailing, etc. Things can get expensive yes, but I'm not a tailor and neither are you. It would prob be good for the OP to go to a tailor and get a professional opinion.
     
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  19. Prudy

    Prudy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, fair enough -

    As far as I understand it tailoring leather is expensive and hard to do properly, but I could certainly be wrong. If you absolutely love the jacket, maybe it's worth it.


    Haha, no I didn't have the studs taken out, that's just dieworkwear's mediocre sense of humor at it's finest.
     
  20. skeen7908

    skeen7908 Well-Known Member

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    You're an angry little man aren't you


    People on this thread love telling others to "shut the fuck up"


    If it was me, I'd sell, but that's because I think goat looks and feels bad, particularly the one ToJ uses
     
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