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Thomas pink shirts

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by clarinetplayer, Jan 3, 2003.

  1. clarinetplayer

    clarinetplayer Well-Known Member

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    A few weeks ago, there was a negative reference to the quality of Thomas Pink shirts--the first negative comment I've seen in the Forum. The complaint was about shrinkage. Any comments about this? I recently purchased some Acquascutum shirts & am impressed by the styling, construction, and the fact that they are "holding up" after laundering. How do Pink shirts match up to Acquascutum?
     
  2. Steve B.

    Steve B. Well-Known Member

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    Don't own any Aquascutum shirts, but the Thomas Pink I own did shrink a bit when washed. I'd buy a half size larger than normal.
     
  3. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Well-Known Member

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    Just as 90% of all English shoes come from half a dozen or so factories, so some 90% of all English shirts come also from half a dozen factories (just different ones). Neither Aquascutum nor Thomas Pink make their own shirts. Aquascutum produces suits and raincoats, their shirts were made (and probably still are) by Stephens Brothers in Ireland; they make shirts under hundreds of different labels as well as Stephens Brothers. Thomas Pink is a retailer; it is a new-ish outlet (maybe 15 or 20 years old), giving itself all the airs and graces as if it had been established for ages. I don't know who makes Thomas Pink shirts, but it could be Stephens Brothers as well.

    Hopefully shirts in this price range don't come from the third world, but it is possible. According to European legislation, you can give as Country of Origin the last place where a "significant" production step was taken. If the whole shirt comes from Hong Kong, but the buttonholes are cut and the buttons stitched on in England, than you are entitled to call it "Made in England". Part-finished products with the final assembly taken in Europe are very common. A loophole Marks and Spencer have exploited for years, until they were found out in a television documentary.
     
  4. tricket

    tricket Well-Known Member

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    The "Made in Europe" tag does not guarantee good quality. I have an Aquascutum shirt labelled made in the UK. It wore out really fast (about 10 washes).

    Aquascutum shirts available in Hong Kong (where I'm from) are made under licence in China by a company called YGM Trading. Believe me or not, they come in good quality and construction. The stripe patterns at the major seams (like shoulders, gaunlet, etc) match and fit better to your body. Of course expensive details like mitered split yoke, hand-stitched buttonholes are absent.

    Stripe patterns at major seams in a Thomas Pink shirt do not match too. And occasionally you'll find the collars wrinkle badly because the interlines Pink uses are fused but shrinks more than the fabric. Pink shirts are not considered as of good quality here in Hong Kong.
     
  5. Jantzen fan

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    bengal-stripe - yes you're right about Thomas Pink retail shirts. Thomas Pink was the 18th-century Mayfair tailor extraordinaire who specialised in gentlemen's hunting coats. (Anyone who could afford to buy one was said to be "in the Pink". Only wealthy people wore white shirts and hence the modern term white-collar work. Blue shirts were seen as a way to conceal dirt and hence the term blue-collar worker.)

    Thomas Pink reporedly never made a shirt in his life, but when the retail establishment was founded in 1984 in London by the Mullen brothers, they decided to take the name as proof of the quality product they proposed to offer.
     

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